Critical incident at Hainault tube

[Earthdweller]

Reports coming in of a male with a sword attacking members of the public and police at Hainault tube station this morning

There are reports of a number of casualties

Home Sec statement

https://x.com/jamescleverly/status/178522736908029...

Met statement

Edited by Earthdweller on Tuesday 30th April 09:52

[allegro]

BBC keep referring to it as a knife when it's quite clearly a samurai type sword. hopefully no one is injured too badly

[oobster]

London Ambulance Service are saying five people treated at the scene and then all 5 subsequently taken to hospital.

[mick987]

allegro said:

BBC keep referring to it as a knife when it's quite clearly a samurai type sword. hopefully no one is injured too badly

Yeah it makes Mick Dundee's knife look like a childs toy

[milkround]

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

[ScotHill]

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

fking hell.

[mick987]

ScotHill said:

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

fking hell.

The first dog is a dead dog walking

[LowTread]

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

Words fail me

[princeperch]

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

How on earth can you trust an animal like that in a family house with children and visitors and strangers like tradesmen coming in occasionally?

Id find that more stressful than reassuring tbh. My parents in laws whippet on the other hand I trust as much as you can do with dogs that they wont do anything stupid. Hed be absolutely useless in a combat situation however and would just stand there making stupid growling sounds. But at least I am 99.9pc certain he isnt going to turn on the kids and rip their hands off if they pull his tail (which they know they are not meant to do) or accidentally run into him etc.

[dundarach]

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

I don't want to fight you or the dogs, however how do you feel when you don't have them with you?

Safety is about trying your best not to get involved, avoiding issues and running away, anything else you do it simply playing the numbers game.

You might be hardest badass on the street, someone sucker punches you and you hit your head, you're buggered.

The hardest person I ever met told a story that he was jumped in London by a few fellas, he claimed to have broken the arm of one and then ran as fast as he could the other way, might be bullst, sounds like a good plan.

Again not wanting to start an argument, just found your reply quite fascinating is all.

[BrettMRC]

mick987 said:

ScotHill said:

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

fking hell.

The first dog is a dead dog walking

100% this.
You're insane if you think having a trained attack malinois as a pet / protection dog is going to end well.

[ChevronB19]

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

Bloody hell.

I bet if you lived in America you’d have more guns than digits.

[SpudLink]

BrettMRC said:

mick987 said:

ScotHill said:

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

fking hell.

The first dog is a dead dog walking

100% this.
You're insane if you think having a trained attack malinois as a pet / protection dog is going to end well.

Trained... upto the point where it refused to release it's victim. Ideal family pet.

[W124]

Ex-police dogs are great. They are extremely well trained, and just as winningly daft as any other hound. And they need homing.

They will just Womble about until they hear a command they know, from their owner. Then? Well, they will do exactly what they are told.

They don’t go around attacking children and other dogs.

[eharding]

ChevronB19 said:

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

Bloody hell.

I bet if you lived in America you’d have more guns than digits IQ points.

FTFY

[Gecko1978]

BrettMRC said:

mick987 said:

ScotHill said:

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

fking hell.

The first dog is a dead dog walking

100% this.
You're insane if you think having a trained attack malinois as a pet / protection dog is going to end well.

I mean I suppose if it is well trained then all is well but it failed training so sounds like a four legged hand gun with no safety

[eharding]

W124 said:

Ex-police dogs are great. They are extremely well trained, and just as winningly daft as any other hound. And they need homing.

They will just Womble about until they hear a command they know, from their owner. Then? Well, they will do exactly what they are told.

They don’t go around attacking children and other dogs.

This one isn't an ex-police dog though - it failed the aptitude test. So now it's a failed wannabe police dog with a grudge.

[captain_cynic]

eharding said:

This one isn't an ex-police dog though - it failed the aptitude test. So now it's a failed wannabe police dog with a grudge.

Sounds like something I could sell to ITV

As someone else above said, the best thing you can do in self defence is avoidance. Look for the hazard, avoid it before it becomes an actual threat. You win 100% of the fights you don't have.

Also that guard dog isn't going to be around all the time. It's likely not to be around when you really need it.

[Tankrizzo]

milkround said:

This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.

The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.

My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.

Aren't you the guy who got prosecuted for rucking with a supermarket security guard?

[vaud]

W124 said:

Ex-police dogs are great.

Ex police dogs that have passed their training - agreed. Those that fail training must have question marks?