Critical incident at Hainault tube
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Squadrone Rosso said:
This guy doesn’t fit the usual PH narrative so must be mental health, right?
A blocke carrying a sword around and attacking people? If it isn't muslamic or "foreign" related then mental health issues can be considered. We still don't know anything about the perpetrator though.W124 said:
Ex-police dogs are great. They are extremely well trained, and just as winningly daft as any other hound. And they need homing.
They will just Womble about until they hear a command they know, from their owner. Then? Well, they will do exactly what they are told.
They don’t go around attacking children and other dogs.
I'm not sure that is entirely true.They will just Womble about until they hear a command they know, from their owner. Then? Well, they will do exactly what they are told.
They don’t go around attacking children and other dogs.
There was a dog van in my last force that had two cages side by side. What could go wrong?
I saw the dog handler pulling his his dog, a particularly nasty one, out of the van. The other dog, belonging to another handler, was going berserk (it can sometimes be difficult to tell, but in this case it was obvious). It seemed one dog had been minding its own business when a portion of its tail wandered into the adjacent cage. There was surprisingly little blood, given the % of tail missing. We never did find the missing bit of tail.
Yeah, police dogs are great. Take Denzil. It was not fully aware of standard operating procedures, and when chasing a suspect, or someone who may or may not be a suspect, instead of grabbing a forearm, it would jump on the back of the person. Once on the ground, it was look to all the world, and to the suspect one assumes, as if it was buggering them. According to the handler, this is a sign of dog dominance. I'll buy that. What I wouldn't buy is an ex-police dog.
BrettMRC said:
mick987 said:
ScotHill said:
milkround said:
This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.
The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
fThe best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
king hell.You're insane if you think having a trained attack malinois as a pet / protection dog is going to end well.
Chances of getting shredded by your own dog vs the possibility of a loony with a machete attacking you ? The odds are massively skewed towards the former.
allegro said:
BBC keep referring to it as a knife when it's quite clearly a samurai type sword. hopefully no one is injured too badly
Will be interesting to find out how he got it unless its an antique one. Modern type ones were banned from sale with 2007 VCR Act IIRC and its been illegal to keep one in your home fullstop (unless antique) since Offensive Weapons 2019 came in. There was a 'buy in' scheme at that point administered by the Police. Something else that has been 'banned' for sometime to protect the public where the legislation has once again failed the public.ScotHill said:
milkround said:
This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.
The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
fThe best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
king hell.
milkround said:
This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.
The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
Is he also trained to obtain the receipts from self-service checkouts? The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
Derek Smith said:
W124 said:
Ex-police dogs are great. They are extremely well trained, and just as winningly daft as any other hound. And they need homing.
They will just Womble about until they hear a command they know, from their owner. Then? Well, they will do exactly what they are told.
They don’t go around attacking children and other dogs.
I'm not sure that is entirely true.They will just Womble about until they hear a command they know, from their owner. Then? Well, they will do exactly what they are told.
They don’t go around attacking children and other dogs.
There was a dog van in my last force that had two cages side by side. What could go wrong?
I saw the dog handler pulling his his dog, a particularly nasty one, out of the van. The other dog, belonging to another handler, was going berserk (it can sometimes be difficult to tell, but in this case it was obvious). It seemed one dog had been minding its own business when a portion of its tail wandered into the adjacent cage. There was surprisingly little blood, given the % of tail missing. We never did find the missing bit of tail.
Yeah, police dogs are great. Take Denzil. It was not fully aware of standard operating procedures, and when chasing a suspect, or someone who may or may not be a suspect, instead of grabbing a forearm, it would jump on the back of the person. Once on the ground, it was look to all the world, and to the suspect one assumes, as if it was buggering them. According to the handler, this is a sign of dog dominance. I'll buy that. What I wouldn't buy is an ex-police dog.
Apologies for adding to the thread derail.
milkround said:
This is why I got a second dog. One which is trained in personal protection and attack work.
The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
This goes out as a warning to all supermarket security guards.The best way to stop someone with a sword is a gun. The second best way is running them over with a car. But a 40kg Belgian mali hitting you at full pelt whilst trying to rip your arm off is a close third.
My boy failed prison dog school as he wouldn’t release after biting. So came pretty much fully trained. I got him off my dog trainer who specialises in bite work. The prison service and police (when they don’t breed in house) give the dogs back to breeders if they fail. Who then generally sell/give them to trainers who are specialist's. So it’s a fantastic and fairly affordable way of getting a top rate protection dog at pet mutt prices. I’d recommend it to anyone who takes their family security seriously.
Ziplobb said:
Will be interesting to find out how he got it unless its an antique one. Modern type ones were banned from sale with 2007 VCR Act IIRC and its been illegal to keep one in your home fullstop (unless antique) since Offensive Weapons 2019 came in. There was a 'buy in' scheme at that point administered by the Police. Something else that has been 'banned' for sometime to protect the public where the legislation has once again failed the public.
It's only the really cheap (think £30 Chinese display swords) curved swords that have been banned. Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff