Community service is pointless
Discussion
FourWheelDrift said:
I'd send them to do their community service in Iraq and Afghanistan. Wouldn't cost a penny, just send them out on the next cargo plane, open rear doors and push.
Wouldn't cost a penny? Have you seen the price of fuel these days? 
They can march them up to the Highlands and do some pathway and bothy reconstruction - no goretex supplied, no midge repellent in the Summer either. I wouldn't care if they get the work done, just that those who don't work will be fecking miserable, and those that put in the effort will be punished but still have done something useful and might learn from their mistake.
Ayahuasca said:
Nolar Dog said:
I've done community service three times and found that it does work.
Spot the flaw in that argument.It was however bloody hard work, time consuming, sometimes soul destroying and always a fitting "punishment" for the crime.
But jokers like you choose to overlook details like that for an internet based laugh.
You idiot.
Nolar Dog said:
Ayahuasca said:
Nolar Dog said:
I've done community service three times and found that it does work.
Spot the flaw in that argument.It was however bloody hard work, time consuming, sometimes soul destroying and always a fitting "punishment" for the crime.
But jokers like you choose to overlook details like that for an internet based laugh.
You idiot.
So in your case and experience Community Service does NOT work.
Not every aspect of sentencing is about "deterrent".
Community Service worked for me as a punishment.
As I said, nothing would have been a deterrent at the time. Not even capital punishment.
But I bow to your superior opinions.
I have nothing else to contribute so feel free to carry on without me.
Community Service worked for me as a punishment.
As I said, nothing would have been a deterrent at the time. Not even capital punishment.
But I bow to your superior opinions.
I have nothing else to contribute so feel free to carry on without me.
Edited by Nolar Dog on Tuesday 9th June 20:32
I've said this before but I'll say it again.
The vast majority of punishments in the criminal justice system require the criminal to accept and go along with their punishment. Ergo if you make punishments harsh and degrading they simply won't turn up.
If they don't turn up you aren't going to be able to do a man hunt for each case of affray or burglary. You aren't going to be able to put more people in prison without spending loads more money. And prison doesn't really work either based on the re offending rates.
The vast majority of punishments in the criminal justice system require the criminal to accept and go along with their punishment. Ergo if you make punishments harsh and degrading they simply won't turn up.
If they don't turn up you aren't going to be able to do a man hunt for each case of affray or burglary. You aren't going to be able to put more people in prison without spending loads more money. And prison doesn't really work either based on the re offending rates.
Talksteer said:
I've said this before but I'll say it again.
The vast majority of punishments in the criminal justice system require the criminal to accept and go along with their punishment. Ergo if you make punishments harsh and degrading they simply won't turn up.
If they don't turn up you aren't going to be able to do a man hunt for each case of affray or burglary. You aren't going to be able to put more people in prison without spending loads more money. And prison doesn't really work either based on the re offending rates.
Why do they need to turn up to community service for burglary and affray? Remand them in the cells until the Saturday afternoon then take them straight to the town square for 50 lashes.The vast majority of punishments in the criminal justice system require the criminal to accept and go along with their punishment. Ergo if you make punishments harsh and degrading they simply won't turn up.
If they don't turn up you aren't going to be able to do a man hunt for each case of affray or burglary. You aren't going to be able to put more people in prison without spending loads more money. And prison doesn't really work either based on the re offending rates.
Problem solved.
Jasandjules said:
Talksteer said:
I've said this before but I'll say it again.
The vast majority of punishments in the criminal justice system require the criminal to accept and go along with their punishment. Ergo if you make punishments harsh and degrading they simply won't turn up.
If they don't turn up you aren't going to be able to do a man hunt for each case of affray or burglary. You aren't going to be able to put more people in prison without spending loads more money. And prison doesn't really work either based on the re offending rates.
Why do they need to turn up to community service for burglary and affray? Remand them in the cells until the Saturday afternoon then take them straight to the town square for 50 lashes.The vast majority of punishments in the criminal justice system require the criminal to accept and go along with their punishment. Ergo if you make punishments harsh and degrading they simply won't turn up.
If they don't turn up you aren't going to be able to do a man hunt for each case of affray or burglary. You aren't going to be able to put more people in prison without spending loads more money. And prison doesn't really work either based on the re offending rates.
Problem solved.
All of us are a seconds indiscretion from being a minor criminal, its easy to think or harsh penalties for people you don't like but you have to remember that they can equally be used against you and people you do like.
Personally I think more punishments should be open ended, ergo you are sentenced to community service or gaol until you achieve a specific rehabilitation objective related to how you ended up committing the crime. If you actively resist your punishment gets worse.
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