William Hague at Qs today

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Fittster said:

Skii said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

At that time people wouldn't vote Conservative, regardless of their leader, the UK had been seduced by B.Liar and his cronies and New Labour were very much revelling in their 'happy time' , the Conservatives had been murdered at the polling stations and anyone in the position of leading the Conservative party at that time was a lamb to the slaughter.

Was to decontaminate the brand so that people would vote for them. Something Hague wasn’t capable of doing.

Hague was find for blue rinse tories but he couldn’t appeal to the wider public.

Blue rinse tories. you do know where he's from don't you?

[Asterix]

Incredible Sulk said:

StevieBee said:

Fittster said:

Do you lot smoke a lot of drugs? None of you clearly remember just how bad a leader he was, it was clearly found that people won't vote for a party lead by William Hague. He's yesterday's man, along with Howard and IDS.

I think you'll find that his biggest problem was that he didn't really have a party to lead and whoever had the job then would've ended up in the same boat.

A case of the right leader at the wrong time.

There has been much talk of him having a second stab at the leadership in the future.

I think you are wrong. His biggest mistake was to take the party careering off into the long grass of Right Wing Politics. I think he now realises that was a bad, bad decision. At least Cameron is trying very hard to win the centre ground, which is where most elections are won and lost.

I happen to have a different opinion (disagree is a strong word and one that closes debate). Going further to the Right in a managed manner has more pros than cons.

The middle ground is shared by a confused electorate and swung by housewives that think CMD has a cuter bum than Crash.

What is necessary is the education and management of the masses opposed to the pandering of the masses. Blair was a master of the latter and would bend with the populist wind without shame. Strong leadership is arguably not listening to the day-to-day quiblings but having a long term view of what is right and good. This is an inherrent problem with short term politics - quick wins are headline grabbers not sustainable policies for the good of the country.

[Morningside]

FPC said:

Gravitas personified:

FAIL (as they say).

That was a classic backfire by the media department by trying to make him more young and hip as the Tories did not have much to catch the holy Tony.

That (the baseball cap) killed any serious chance on his behalf but I think he will bounce in the future.

[loltolhurst]

hes good but hes no boris...

[T89 Callan]

He's a great 2nd in command but not a front man (sadly).

I think he's found a good position and will be an asset to the next government.

[Skywalker]

T89 Callan said:

He's a great 2nd in command but not a front man (sadly).

I think he's found a good position and will be an asset to the next government.

Look! The post is about William Hague and not Gordon Broon. Do keep up, at the back!