Islamophobia or simply the truth ?

[Halb]

ewenm said:

There are plenty of unused churches in areas that haven't seen a change in the population. We are becoming a more secular society. Why the fear of change? What is it that scares you about these changes?

Two near me have been turned into pretty nice houses.

[ewenm]

Slothario said:

him_over_there said:

Slothario would you have a problem if a disused church or graveyard was turned into a set of flats ?

As for St Pauls Cathedral being turned into a kebab shop. Couldn't care less really, if it wasn't being used and was going derelict it would probably end up an eye-sore. Why not level it and put something useful in its place ?

Like the Colesseum, or the leaning tower of Pisa. Yeah, flatten 'em all and build call centres or new Ikea stores to sell us lots of st.

Being a tourist attraction IS "being used", the guy you've quoted said "not being used". Admittedly, that's as unlikely as your scenario of it being converted into a mosque (although such things have happened in other countries, like in Istanbul, for example).

[ewenm]

Halb said:

ewenm said:

There are plenty of unused churches in areas that haven't seen a change in the population. We are becoming a more secular society. Why the fear of change? What is it that scares you about these changes?

Two near me have been turned into pretty nice houses.

The OH says she'd love to live in a converted church as long as it came with a graveyard.

[hairykrishna]

AndrewW-G said:

Why not put your money where your mouth is?

This ones up for £130,000

Edited by AndrewW-G on Monday 7th September 13:54

Only planning for storage though. No good for my cruxification themed kebab shop.

[Marf]

hairykrishna said:

AndrewW-G said:

Why not put your money where your mouth is?

This ones up for £130,000

Edited by AndrewW-G on Monday 7th September 13:54

Only planning for storage though. No good for my cruxification themed kebab shop.

Jesus on a Stick - Lamb kebab skewered on a cross shaped stick - chilli sauce optional - £2.95

[AndrewW-G]

hairykrishna said:

AndrewW-G said:

Why not put your money where your mouth is?

This ones up for £130,000

Edited by AndrewW-G on Monday 7th September 13:54

Only planning for storage though. No good for my crucification themed kebab shop.

How about for "The happy budhist, Quran & Torah storeage centre"

[Bill]

Marf said:

He's funny, mods can we keep him? canwecanwecanwe?

No

[Marf]

Bill said:

Marf said:

He's funny, mods can we keep him? canwecanwecanwe?

No

Aww, maybe for another 2hrs45mins? just until I finish work?

[him_over_there]

It's a pity that PH does seem to attract idiots and bigoted cretins nowadays. I guess a downside of the P+P success ?

[glazbagun]

Slothario said:

Try bulldozing a mosque in a muslim country to build a Christian church..........

Try finding an abandoned mosque anywhere in a muslim country to bulldoze.

[B Oeuf]

Slothario said:

How did it become unused ? Why did the white Christians move away ? Were they begged to stay by thier new neighbours ? Wake up.

Who said they moved away? it's no secret that church attndances are declining across the country, a bloody good thing in my opinion as it shows people are progressing. They don't need a crutch, er Church any more.

sorry, I said I'd STFU didn't I

[_dobbo_]

Slothario said:

How did it become unused ? Why did the white Christians move away ? Were they begged to stay by thier new neighbours ? Wake up.

I'm wide awake thanks, I'm just apparently not a viable recruitment candidate for the BNP.

[southendpier]

Marf said:

Slothario said:

_dobbo_ said:

Slothario said:

968, would you like to see St. Pauls Cathedral (it's in London) turned into a giant mosque ? Perhaps turning the Library of Dean and Chapter into a kebab shop while they're at it ?

Yeah, because that's exactly the same as changing the use of a derelict church.

How did it become unused ? Why did the white Christians move away ? Were they begged to stay by thier new neighbours ? Wake up.

I'd suggest the white christians didn't move away, just that as our society grows up and matures, less and less of us need the safety blanky of religion to guide us through life, so the church was no longer attracting the same levels of worshippers and hence closed.

Boohoo.

Maybe if the Black Christians would've move into the area then it would've been OK because everyone knows how they breed and there would be lot's of them milling about with no jobs able to go to the Church.

err would the BNP still be unhappy..?

I'm not really into politics or religion TBH.

Edited by southendpier on Monday 7th September 15:17

[Marf]

Sort your quoting out fella

[southendpier]

Marf said:

Sort your quoting out fella

Sorry Marf!

[Marf]

No probs

TBH I think the BNP would still be up in arms, afterall these black christians would be stealing the church places of the indigenous honkey christians.

[southendpier]

Marf said:

No probs

TBH I think the BNP would still be up in arms, afterall these black christians would be stealing the church places of the indigenous honkey christians.

Yeah playing their guitars and singing and dancing and smiling and enjoying themselves.

It'd be awful.

[Groober]

I don't care who worships who in what to be honest.

I think the architechture of old religios buildings is brilliant though and if the muslims will save the the building and use it then in my book thats a good thing.

It would have fallen down otherwise because the christians wont be coming back.

Edited by Groober on Monday 7th September 15:25

[crofty1984]

Marf said:

My balls hurt said:

No probs

TBH I think the BNP would still be up in arms, afterall these black christians would be stealing the church places of the indigenous honkey christians.

Yeah playing their guitars and singing and dancing and smiling and enjoying themselves.

It'd be awful.

Edited by crofty1984 on Monday 7th September 15:27

[Marf]

southendpier said:

Marf said:

No probs

TBH I think the BNP would still be up in arms, afterall these black christians would be stealing the church places of the indigenous honkey christians.

Yeah playing their guitars and singing and dancing and smiling and enjoying themselves.

It'd be awful.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohmhZVjaqQo

Looks like fun to me

Edited by Marf on Monday 7th September 15:27