Lisbon Treaty , Yes or No or maybe

[Halb]

Halb said:

AndrewW-G said:

Could Blairs reversal of Thatchers rebate, be seen as a bribe for his possible new role of "supreme leader of the united republic of Europe".

After all whats tens of billions of pounds in taxpayers money when he's going to put another million or two in his pocket and get to rule the entire continent

Edited by AndrewW-G on Wednesday 7th October 14:42

Latest rebate is 3billion pounds. Which would move the UK into third place.

[elster]

Halb said:

AndrewW-G said:

Could Blairs reversal of Thatchers rebate, be seen as a bribe for his possible new role of "supreme leader of the united republic of Europe".

After all whats tens of billions of pounds in taxpayers money when he's going to put another million or two in his pocket and get to rule the entire continent

Edited by AndrewW-G on Wednesday 7th October 14:42

Rebate is 3billion pounds. Which would move the UK into third place.

Second place.

[jesusbuiltmycar]

AndrewW-G said:

Could Blairs reversal of Thatchers rebate, be seen as a bribe for his possible new role of "supreme leader of the united republic of Europe".

After all whats tens of billions of pounds in taxpayers money when he's going to put another million or two in his pocket and get to rule the entire continent

Edited by AndrewW-G on Wednesday 7th October 14:42

That and not giving us the referendum Labour promised...

[Halb]

elster said:

Halb said:

AndrewW-G said:

Could Blairs reversal of Thatchers rebate, be seen as a bribe for his possible new role of "supreme leader of the united republic of Europe".

After all whats tens of billions of pounds in taxpayers money when he's going to put another million or two in his pocket and get to rule the entire continent

Edited by AndrewW-G on Wednesday 7th October 14:42

Rebate is 3billion pounds. Which would move the UK into third place.

Second place.

France, 17,303,107,859
Italy, 14,359,479,157
UK, 13,739,900,046+3bill=16,739,900.
According to that UK stil behind France.

[elster]

Halb said:

elster said:

Halb said:

AndrewW-G said:

Could Blairs reversal of Thatchers rebate, be seen as a bribe for his possible new role of "supreme leader of the united republic of Europe".

After all whats tens of billions of pounds in taxpayers money when he's going to put another million or two in his pocket and get to rule the entire continent

Edited by AndrewW-G on Wednesday 7th October 14:42

Rebate is 3billion pounds. Which would move the UK into third place.

Second place.

France, 17,303,107,859
Italy, 14,359,479,157
UK, 13,739,900,046+3bill=16,739,900.
According to that UK stil behind France.

Do the sum and take off the figure next to it.

[Halb]

elster said:

Do the sum and take off the figure next to it.

Can you explain further please?
The 13 billion is what we pay in? Plus 3 billions of rebate?

Edited by Halb on Thursday 8th October 13:03

[elster]

Halb said:

elster said:

Do the sum and take off the figure next to it.

Can you explain further please?
The 13 billion is what we pay in? Plus 3 billions of rebate?

Edited by Halb on Thursday 8th October 13:03

Yes but we get several billion back.

We overall are second biggest losers in the EU.

[Halb]

elster said:

Halb said:

elster said:

Do the sum and take off the figure next to it.

Can you explain further please?
The 13 billion is what we pay in? Plus 3 billions of rebate?

Edited by Halb on Thursday 8th October 13:03

Yes but we get several billion back.

We overall are second biggest losers in the EU.

Thanks for that. I had to go to the wiki page. I did not realise that the money back already included the rebate. Which as you say, puts us second behind Germany.

[baz1985]

I'm with Ken Clarke.

[Shoot Blair]

baz1985 said:

I'm with Ken Clarke.

Explain in full detail and explain how that is best for the nation and not just yourself.

[hidetheelephants]

Shoot Blair said:

baz1985 said:

I'm with Ken Clarke.

Explain in full detail and explain how that is best for the nation and not just yourself.

Perhaps he meant it literally; he's in a bar in Manchester with big Ken himself, sucking on a big havana, enjoying a bit of Bowmore 12 year old and plotting the end of the grand european project.

[Shoot Blair]

hidetheelephants said:

Shoot Blair said:

baz1985 said:

I'm with Ken Clarke.

Explain in full detail and explain how that is best for the nation and not just yourself.

Perhaps he meant it literally; he's in a bar in Manchester with big Ken himself, sucking on a big havana, enjoying a bit of Bowmore 12 year old and plotting the end of the grand european project.

I thought Big Ken was a full bore Europhile, which as a conservative and given Europe's undemocratic, totalitarian pseudo-socialism is completely at odds with this view. He should either be a member of the Labour party, or sort his position out. IMO

Edited by Shoot Blair on Friday 9th October 08:25

[triggersbroom]

Shoot Blair said:

hidetheelephants said:

Shoot Blair said:

baz1985 said:

I'm with Ken Clarke.

Explain in full detail and explain how that is best for the nation and not just yourself.

Perhaps he meant it literally; he's in a bar in Manchester with big Ken himself, sucking on a big havana, enjoying a bit of Bowmore 12 year old and plotting the end of the grand european project.

I thought Big Ken was a full bore Europhile, which as a conservative and given Europe's undemocratic, totalitarian pseudo-socialism is completely at odds with this view. He should either be a member of the Labour party, or sort his position out. IMO

Edited by Shoot Blair on Friday 9th October 08:25

I'm not so sure that he is.