Lisbon Treaty , Yes or No or maybe
Poll: Lisbon Treaty , Yes or No or maybe
Total Members Polled: 261
Discussion
nonegreen said:
We will learn to have no respect for suthority and we will at least stop being run by incompetent english ex public schoolboys.
You do know that winky isn't English and didn’t go to a public school don’t you? . . . . . . . . and just for good measure Blairs also Scottish having been born and for a good portion of his childhood raised in Edinburgh (both parents being Glaswegian)Given that Blair’s predecessor’s Sir John Major, Baroness Thatcher, Jim Callaghan, Harold Wilson & Edward Heath were all educated in STATE schools and all bar Callaghan in state Grammar schools I fail to see where in modern times we’ve been ruled by public school boys, with the exception of Blair!
AndrewW-G said:
nonegreen said:
We will learn to have no respect for suthority and we will at least stop being run by incompetent english ex public schoolboys.
You do know that winky isn't English and didn’t go to a public school don’t you? . . . . . . . . and just for good measure Blairs also Scottish having been born and for a good portion of his childhood raised in Edinburgh (both parents being Glaswegian)Given that Blair’s predecessor’s Sir John Major, Baroness Thatcher, Jim Callaghan, Harold Wilson & Edward Heath were all educated in STATE schools and all bar Callaghan in state Grammar schools I fail to see where in modern times we’ve been ruled by public school boys, with the exception of Blair!
It appears that the issue of Europe/LT has been bought up prior to the CC, where CMD whats to talk about other things.
This could be a nasty party splitter for CMD, pre-election.
I hope to see it as bringing it out to the fore-front will dictate whether I vote UKIP or Cons.
Most people I speak to have a large opinion on EU (stand more to lose than gain) and would appreciate a vote on it. Bringing this up poses a very real threat to our continued membership/terms of engagement.
We all signed up to a common market, whilst behind this was an agenda to produce a union (of no benefit to anyone apart from the net benefactors and the admin). This issus is obviously so critically important that we are not allowed to voice our opinions. Our governments (any of them) seem hell bent on this ridiculous, expensive, experiment and I really can't see the point of it. I wonder whether it is an aggregate protection strategy, to prevent member states from taking advantage of each other post-peak-oil, eg UK/G coal etc. It appears that in politics, most people don't have this sort of knowledge, insight or are able to see beyond the ends of their self-serving, self-indulgent glory bound, eutopian schoolboy bulls
t politics.
To most it seems obvious, which is why we can't be allowed a vote that would perhaps deny them a position, post politics on board the gravytrain.
I was contemplating future lines between the IRA and whatever the Euroskeptics may sling together in this country. After all, if no-one is listening, there is only terrorism left, right?
(NB:- I am not promoting or validating terrorism).
This could be a nasty party splitter for CMD, pre-election.
I hope to see it as bringing it out to the fore-front will dictate whether I vote UKIP or Cons.
Most people I speak to have a large opinion on EU (stand more to lose than gain) and would appreciate a vote on it. Bringing this up poses a very real threat to our continued membership/terms of engagement.
We all signed up to a common market, whilst behind this was an agenda to produce a union (of no benefit to anyone apart from the net benefactors and the admin). This issus is obviously so critically important that we are not allowed to voice our opinions. Our governments (any of them) seem hell bent on this ridiculous, expensive, experiment and I really can't see the point of it. I wonder whether it is an aggregate protection strategy, to prevent member states from taking advantage of each other post-peak-oil, eg UK/G coal etc. It appears that in politics, most people don't have this sort of knowledge, insight or are able to see beyond the ends of their self-serving, self-indulgent glory bound, eutopian schoolboy bulls
t politics. To most it seems obvious, which is why we can't be allowed a vote that would perhaps deny them a position, post politics on board the gravytrain.
I was contemplating future lines between the IRA and whatever the Euroskeptics may sling together in this country. After all, if no-one is listening, there is only terrorism left, right?
(NB:- I am not promoting or validating terrorism).
B Oeuf said:
If anyone tries to force this bullst propaganda on my Grandson, I'll personally drag him out of the class. How can they still preach this claptrap when it is far from conclusive and has been pulled apart by various experts?
Not only that, iirc the Judge who ruled on the errors, not so much the junk, in that quackumentary insisted that it could only be sent to schools with a rider attached stating various things - can't remember the exact ruling. Of course, balance is nowhere and indoctrination everywhere as The Great Global Warming Swindle won't be sent to all schools for free...t propaganda on my Grandson, I'll personally drag him out of the class. How can they still preach this claptrap when it is far from conclusive and has been pulled apart by various experts?The federalist EU will love it and encourage more of the same, state control of thought and communication isn't too far off - how long before the EU crime of seditious libel, in which it is an offence to write anything that harms the interests of the EU (as defined by the EU) - is extended from employees to citizens? They want to silence everybody who dissents from any of their religious persuasions with a eurojackboot.
EU Seditious Libel
http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
turbobloke said:
EU Seditious Libel
http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
Welcome to the Union of European Socialist Republics....http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
mybrainhurts said:
turbobloke said:
EU Seditious Libel
http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
Welcome to the Union of European Socialist Republics....http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
Remember to vote Yes or else.....
turbobloke said:
EU Seditious Libel
http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
Scary stuff!!!!http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
turbobloke said:
EU Seditious Libel
http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
Come on Canada, get my immigration application sorted sharpish!http://davekopel.org/Media/Mags/SilencingOppositio...
If you want to get straight to it, scroll down to the fifth paragraph.
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