Winky - you have less than 150 days!

[Rocky Balboa]

Not long now!

I can't believe how long we have had to put up with Brown. Just seems to have dragged on forever!

[The Hypno-Toad]

Rumour is that he's going to the palace on Tuesday. So hopefully not much longer.

[Morningside]

The Hypno-Toad said:

Rumour is that he's going to the palace on Tuesday. So hopefully not much longer.

GOOD. I suspect that he cannot drag his feet any longer. Piss poor poll ratings or not.

[Ayahuasca]

[thinfourth2]

Morningside said:

The Hypno-Toad said:

Rumour is that he's going to the palace on Tuesday. So hopefully not much longer.

GOOD. I suspect that he cannot drag his feet any longer. Piss poor poll ratings or not.

I'd rather he went to the tower

[Asterix]

The Hypno-Toad said:

Rumour is that he's going to the palace on Tuesday. So hopefully not much longer.

Hopefully, when he gets to the Palace, he'll be set upon by a few of The Queen's Guard and thrown in the Tower.

[JohnnyJones]

Asterix said:

The Hypno-Toad said:

Rumour is that he's going to the palace on Tuesday. So hopefully not much longer.

Hopefully, when he gets to the Palace, he'll be set upon by a few of The Queen's Guard and thrown in the Tower.

...and turn supergrass and help nail the orange lizard one for war crimes....

[SDxsi]

This GE will be my 1st time voting and I'm genuinely worried about the outcome. We need rid of this Labour, incompetent lying wa k excuse for a party. I would like to vote UKIP but know that the majority are saying that a vote for anyone other than conservative is a vote for labour, I wish people weren't so bloody narrow minded and used their democratic vote to choose who they want not who everyone else wants them to vote for. We need a revolution but have to many people who just roll over and die without so much of a whisper! I'm sticking to my guns and voting for UKIP hoping people see sense before the big day and do the same.

[magpie215]

I am with you SDxsi.

Not voting for the main 3 parties may or may not be a vote for liebour....But

It is the best way for me to stick 2 fingers up at the establishment and show my feelings at the political system we have in this country.

Spoiling my vote is just not an option so a fringe party vote it is.

We have had con and lab over successive generations time to mix it up a bit IMO.

[tinman0]

magpie215 said:

We have had con and lab over successive generations time to mix it up a bit IMO.

Won't mix anything up. You waste your vote, and it's a vote for Labour. In fact, there are many people who will want you to waste your vote on a small party because it really is a vote for Labour. I am almost sure that there people on PH who will encourage you to do exactly that as they are Labour activists.

As I've said before, the General Election in May is not a time for protest votes. It is a time for change.

If you want a change, vote Tory. If you are happy with the current situation, vote Liberal, which will more than likely let in Labour again.

[Don]

tinman0 said:

magpie215 said:

We have had con and lab over successive generations time to mix it up a bit IMO.

Won't mix anything up. You waste your vote, and it's a vote for Labour. In fact, there are many people who will want you to waste your vote on a small party because it really is a vote for Labour. I am almost sure that there people on PH who will encourage you to do exactly that as they are Labour activists.

As I've said before, the General Election in May is not a time for protest votes. It is a time for change.

If you want a change, vote Tory. If you are happy with the current situation, vote Liberal, which will more than likely let in Labour again.

This.

When you are young you are idealistic - it's a good thing. Once you are older you become practical - it's a good thing.

Vote for who you want in power. But you only have two realistic choices.

[SDxsi]

tinman0 said:

magpie215 said:

We have had con and lab over successive generations time to mix it up a bit IMO.

Won't mix anything up. You waste your vote, and it's a vote for Labour. In fact, there are many people who will want you to waste your vote on a small party because it really is a vote for Labour. I am almost sure that there people on PH who will encourage you to do exactly that as they are Labour activists.

As I've said before, the General Election in May is not a time for protest votes. It is a time for change.

If you want a change, vote Tory. If you are happy with the current situation, vote Liberal, which will more than likely let in Labour again.

All that will happen is Tory in, possible chance of fixing the country, 2 terms, people get pis sed off with them, Vote labour and the cycle then starts again. We need someone other than these 2 who will do what is best for the uk and its people not for a 4 or 8 year popularity contest! Leave the EU unless it really does start to benefit us which seems highly unlikely. Get rid of and control all illegal immigrants, adopt an Australian way of accepting people who can bring something to this country other than fiddling all of the hard working, law abiding, tax paying citizens out of our wages. Only one party seem to be offering this kind of approach! The money saved from this could quite happily right most of the things wrong with this country, reducing the public sector is also a MUST, public spending is the way to get us out of this mess. If our taxes didn't go on pointless things such as climate change, benefits, illegal immigrants, overpaid useless fatcats doing a worthless jobs then maybe just maybe we wouldn't have to pay as much tax and could spend the savings we made on things we want to. Public spending? Yes!

[SDxsi]

Don said:

This.

When you are young you are idealistic - it's a good thing. Once you are older you become practical - it's a good thing.

Vote for who you want in power. But you only have two realistic choices.

It may be idealistic but it is the way things need to be done to shift the balance in our favour. Realism is great but without hope there is no bright future and we're going to be stuck in the same vicious circle for ever more with no certain future. It may be a wasted vote if everyone keeps repressing their feelings but if everyone actually grew a pair it could well make the difference.

[tinman0]

SDxsi said:

Don said:

This.

When you are young you are idealistic - it's a good thing. Once you are older you become practical - it's a good thing.

Vote for who you want in power. But you only have two realistic choices.

It may be idealistic but it is the way things need to be done to shift the balance in our favour. Realism is great but without hope there is no bright future and we're going to be stuck in the same vicious circle for ever more with no certain future. It may be a wasted vote if everyone keeps repressing their feelings but if everyone actually grew a pair it could well make the difference.

And you fail to understand that England is primarily a Conservative and conservative country. People are growing a pair and voting for a change - they are going to vote Tory like they did in the last General Election.

The problem is that Scotland is over-represented in the Commons, and English constituencies are over-representated by Labour. A Labour MP needs 30k of votes on average to get a seat, whereas the Tory MP needs 40k iirc.

If both of these problems were solved, we'd be living in a very different country.

Forgetting the difference of first past the post, we live in a country that is more or less ruled by an electoral minority, and has been for a number of years.

[tangent police]

tinman0 said:

SDxsi said:

Don said:

This.

When you are young you are idealistic - it's a good thing. Once you are older you become practical - it's a good thing.

Vote for who you want in power. But you only have two realistic choices.

It may be idealistic but it is the way things need to be done to shift the balance in our favour. Realism is great but without hope there is no bright future and we're going to be stuck in the same vicious circle for ever more with no certain future. It may be a wasted vote if everyone keeps repressing their feelings but if everyone actually grew a pair it could well make the difference.

And you fail to understand that England is primarily a Conservative and conservative country. People are growing a pair and voting for a change - they are going to vote Tory like they did in the last General Election.

The problem is that Scotland is over-represented in the Commons, and English constituencies are over-representated by Labour. A Labour MP needs 30k of votes on average to get a seat, whereas the Tory MP needs 40k iirc.

If both of these problems were solved, we'd be living in a very different country.

Forgetting the difference of first past the post, we live in a country that is more or less ruled by an electoral minority, and has been for a number of years.

And you appear to have missed out the fact that the libertarian, freedom loving, proud brits are no longer represented by a "conservative" party in the liberal tradition.

Like the other parties, the very good individual liberal policies have been perverted into collective liberal policies, which is the axis of our problems.

However, I am hearing more libertarian spiel from the Callmedavervatives recently, which is either a goal scorer prior to business as usual, or a very welcome change indeed.

However, unless they can give us a choice over the socialist states of Europe, they are socialists, for all intents and purposes.

They reluctantly have my vote.

[clarkey318is]

tangent police said:

tinman0 said:

SDxsi said:

Don said:

This.

When you are young you are idealistic - it's a good thing. Once you are older you become practical - it's a good thing.

Vote for who you want in power. But you only have two realistic choices.

It may be idealistic but it is the way things need to be done to shift the balance in our favour. Realism is great but without hope there is no bright future and we're going to be stuck in the same vicious circle for ever more with no certain future. It may be a wasted vote if everyone keeps repressing their feelings but if everyone actually grew a pair it could well make the difference.

And you fail to understand that England is primarily a Conservative and conservative country. People are growing a pair and voting for a change - they are going to vote Tory like they did in the last General Election.

The problem is that Scotland is over-represented in the Commons, and English constituencies are over-representated by Labour. A Labour MP needs 30k of votes on average to get a seat, whereas the Tory MP needs 40k iirc.

If both of these problems were solved, we'd be living in a very different country.

Forgetting the difference of first past the post, we live in a country that is more or less ruled by an electoral minority, and has been for a number of years.

And you appear to have missed out the fact that the libertarian, freedom loving, proud brits are no longer represented by a "conservative" party in the liberal tradition.

Like the other parties, the very good individual liberal policies have been perverted into collective liberal policies, which is the axis of our problems.

However, I am hearing more libertarian spiel from the Callmedavervatives recently, which is either a goal scorer prior to business as usual, or a very welcome change indeed.

However, unless they can give us a choice over the socialist states of Europe, they are socialists, for all intents and purposes.

They reluctantly have my vote.

They're not getting mine for exactly that reason. If they don't even have the bottle to hold a referendum on the EU then they're as bad as Labour, not to mention that they have jumped on the nonsensical Ecowagen to get the Sensationalist vote.

[Bing o]

And yet we convince ourselves that we live in a democracy - what a joke!

[tinman0]

clarkey318is said:

tangent police said:

tinman0 said:

SDxsi said:

Don said:

This.

When you are young you are idealistic - it's a good thing. Once you are older you become practical - it's a good thing.

Vote for who you want in power. But you only have two realistic choices.

It may be idealistic but it is the way things need to be done to shift the balance in our favour. Realism is great but without hope there is no bright future and we're going to be stuck in the same vicious circle for ever more with no certain future. It may be a wasted vote if everyone keeps repressing their feelings but if everyone actually grew a pair it could well make the difference.

And you fail to understand that England is primarily a Conservative and conservative country. People are growing a pair and voting for a change - they are going to vote Tory like they did in the last General Election.

The problem is that Scotland is over-represented in the Commons, and English constituencies are over-representated by Labour. A Labour MP needs 30k of votes on average to get a seat, whereas the Tory MP needs 40k iirc.

If both of these problems were solved, we'd be living in a very different country.

Forgetting the difference of first past the post, we live in a country that is more or less ruled by an electoral minority, and has been for a number of years.

And you appear to have missed out the fact that the libertarian, freedom loving, proud brits are no longer represented by a "conservative" party in the liberal tradition.

Like the other parties, the very good individual liberal policies have been perverted into collective liberal policies, which is the axis of our problems.

However, I am hearing more libertarian spiel from the Callmedavervatives recently, which is either a goal scorer prior to business as usual, or a very welcome change indeed.

However, unless they can give us a choice over the socialist states of Europe, they are socialists, for all intents and purposes.

They reluctantly have my vote.

They're not getting mine for exactly that reason. If they don't even have the bottle to hold a referendum on the EU then they're as bad as Labour, not to mention that they have jumped on the nonsensical Ecowagen to get the Sensationalist vote.

The simple problem with the Tory Party today is that they are made to jump through hoops by a left leaning media.

When Jon Snow is getting personal briefing in 97 by the Labour Party, it's hard to argue that our media aren't just a little too powerful, and just a little too in the pockets of the Labour Party.

Edited by tinman0 on Monday 5th April 18:08

[Ayahuasca]

Nice fast forward there.

[thatone1967]

Morningside said:

The Hypno-Toad said:

Rumour is that he's going to the palace on Tuesday. So hopefully not much longer.

GOOD. I suspect that he cannot drag his feet any longer. Piss poor poll ratings or not.

Don't count your chickens... I hope you are right...but I have a horrible feeling....