Dodgy Toyota accelerator death
Discussion
Poledriver said:
BliarOut said:
eldar said:
BliarOut said:
eldar said:
BliarOut said:
Blue Meanie said:
Just put foot on brakes... Surely that is a good way to stop the car?
Nope, no servo. Takes a hell of a lot of effort to pull up on a wide open throttle There isn't enough servo to bring the car to rest from speed.
I'm just surprised that 40 years of progress seem to mean that mechanical retardation had become so ineffective....
I have had to deal with this exact problem...... I overtook full throttle in third gear changed to 4th just as I pulled in the realised after having briefly reapplied full throttle I was now stuck in 4th
The only problem was it was on an A road in a 4.0l Tuscan........ Once I worked out what had happened which took a couple of secs and turned the engine off I was just passing 125...I coasted for nearly 1/2 mile till I could pull in. It turned out to be the car mat that had trapped it.
It does happen a bit quicker in a Tuscan than a Yaris
The only problem was it was on an A road in a 4.0l Tuscan........ Once I worked out what had happened which took a couple of secs and turned the engine off I was just passing 125...I coasted for nearly 1/2 mile till I could pull in. It turned out to be the car mat that had trapped it.
It does happen a bit quicker in a Tuscan than a Yaris
I think one point here is the use of "Unsecured" car mats and Double Car mats that Americans use. I Check My mats at least once a week to make sure they are not fouling any pedals and remove and reseat them once a month. Sounds like the "Audi" problem which was due to Audi not using the stupidly oversize pedal that GM and FORD used.
Fish said:
I have had to deal with this exact problem...... I overtook full throttle in third gear changed to 4th just as I pulled in the realised after having briefly reapplied full throttle I was now stuck in 4th
The only problem was it was on an A road in a 4.0l Tuscan........ Once I worked out what had happened which took a couple of secs and turned the engine off I was just passing 125...I coasted for nearly 1/2 mile till I could pull in. It turned out to be the car mat that had trapped it.
It does happen a bit quicker in a Tuscan than a Yaris
I had a similar problem in the Wedge, overtook a car in 2nd, changed up to third and throttle stuck open. I left it for a few seconds to make sure I had a good gap on the car i'd just overtaken; hit the hazards and killed the ignition. Then just pulled in at the side of the road and re-fitted the mat.The only problem was it was on an A road in a 4.0l Tuscan........ Once I worked out what had happened which took a couple of secs and turned the engine off I was just passing 125...I coasted for nearly 1/2 mile till I could pull in. It turned out to be the car mat that had trapped it.
It does happen a bit quicker in a Tuscan than a Yaris
Sadly there are some bloody idiots about.
One of the worst drivers I have ever had the misfortune to be driven by did this the first time he tried cruise control, fortunately not with me in the car but the source is reliable.
He gradually caught up a with some slower moving traffic. He faffed about trying to figure out how to turn the cc off, started to panic, looked to change lanes nearly side swiped somebody.
The passenger all the time was shouting at him to brake it will disengage when the muppet behind the wheel switched off the ignition completely, took the key out and steered across two lanes onto the hard shoulder while other traffic scattered around him. Of course the steering locked.
The prat still thinks the car ran away with him and there was no part of it which was down to his own muppetry.
The same twerp always drives around with his front fogs on, until he sees a police car, when he switches them off, and then puts them back on when they've passed by. Every car he has is quickly covered in dents from various minor scuffs and scrapes.
If I could legally take his keys and licence off him I would.
And we try to keep death off the roads.
One of the worst drivers I have ever had the misfortune to be driven by did this the first time he tried cruise control, fortunately not with me in the car but the source is reliable.
He gradually caught up a with some slower moving traffic. He faffed about trying to figure out how to turn the cc off, started to panic, looked to change lanes nearly side swiped somebody.
The passenger all the time was shouting at him to brake it will disengage when the muppet behind the wheel switched off the ignition completely, took the key out and steered across two lanes onto the hard shoulder while other traffic scattered around him. Of course the steering locked.
The prat still thinks the car ran away with him and there was no part of it which was down to his own muppetry.
The same twerp always drives around with his front fogs on, until he sees a police car, when he switches them off, and then puts them back on when they've passed by. Every car he has is quickly covered in dents from various minor scuffs and scrapes.
If I could legally take his keys and licence off him I would.
And we try to keep death off the roads.
Bill said:
RichardD said:
Will the marketing people for the US manufacturers in the states use this to stick the knife in?
I heard the US Transport bod on the radio this morning saying "My advice to people is to stop driving these vehicles". Apparently he's since had to tone it down a bitBill said:
Wasn't there a problem with cars exploding in crashes and the firm (Ford?) decided it was cheaper to pay out compensation than re-engineer the car?
Pinto wasn't it?I believe GM pulled the same trick some years later didn't they?
ETA: Yes, Ford Pinto, http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/Pinto.htm
Edited by G_T on Thursday 4th February 11:47
Bill said:
Wasn't there a problem with cars exploding in crashes and the firm (Ford?) decided it was cheaper to pay out compensation than re-engineer the car?
I think that was the one nader was involved in, maybe? Anyway, a simple seach I just did for recalls on a dodge caravan shows recalls for potential fires, brake fluid leaks, etc. Recalls are commonplace, and why exactly this particular one has gotten so much attention I don't know.Blue Meanie said:
Yes, because US manufacturers have never had to recall anything...
Didn't they have a recall on Fords sometime ago for similar problems? Thinking about it, I think it was a supurious signal locking the computer in Cruise control, Ford denied it, but then a lot of drivers came forward and said their car had suffered the same fate.Then an expert came on, and by generating the correct frequency near the car, reproduced the fault.
Edited by Vipers on Thursday 4th February 12:15
ErnestM said:
Oh no. This might spell the end for the Pious. Shame.
ETA:
Edited by SGirl on Thursday 4th February 12:15
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