Thieving MPs to be charged!
Discussion
Futuo said:
High time we had some riots in the UK its been too long without one.
Bet the enquiry cost a hell of a lot more than was fiddled.
That's not the point. The courts aren't supposed to turn a profit (although it should cost less to run).Bet the enquiry cost a hell of a lot more than was fiddled.
V said:
The flames of Freedom, how lovely, how just. Ahh, my precious Anarchy... "O beauty, 'til now I never knew thee".[quote]
Also, there are far too many MPs, beginning to be imposed by party headquarters rather than being chosen by their local party. Someone remind me why people are losing interest in politics?
Also, there are far too many MPs, beginning to be imposed by party headquarters rather than being chosen by their local party. Someone remind me why people are losing interest in politics?
Pesty said:
its a joke as we all knew it would be.
what about that daft cow , Luton MP was it? who had the roof done on here south coast house further away from london than her constituancy house.
WHy did hundreds of them have to pay money back if only 4 broke the law?
she was an absolute star... signed off work sick for a year (on full pay) the reason.. stress caused by her fiddling her expenses and getting caught... you could not make this stuff up!what about that daft cow , Luton MP was it? who had the roof done on here south coast house further away from london than her constituancy house.
WHy did hundreds of them have to pay money back if only 4 broke the law?
BrassMan said:
Futuo said:
High time we had some riots in the UK its been too long without one.
Bet the enquiry cost a hell of a lot more than was fiddled.
That's not the point. The courts aren't supposed to turn a profit (although it should cost less to run).Bet the enquiry cost a hell of a lot more than was fiddled.
The taxpayer will lose money overall - because the repayments will be less than the total bill for the Legg review, which stands at £1.16million.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248648/MP...
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article2...
So Brown is bringing in Blair to help with the election campaign?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-238...
Can we see Blair's Expenses please? Oh no he shredded them didn't he?
How comes second copies do not exist in Parliament?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-238...
Can we see Blair's Expenses please? Oh no he shredded them didn't he?
How comes second copies do not exist in Parliament?
johnfm said:
Strangely, they have been charged with offences contrary to the theft act. I am very surprised there have been no fraud charges.
don't get hung up whether they use the theft or fraud acts wiki them they are virtually indistinguishable, where I work does fraud work the theft act is used in some more serious cases we deal with.The definitions are subtly different, the general populace would pushed to tell you the difference and which would be more appropriate.
"Theft", fraud it's essentially the same thing in this case.
I'd still be more concerned about then lawyering up on the parliamentary privilege defence that this is a matter for parliament not criminal justice. Remember Archer crime was nothing to do with parliament these buggers just might get off criminal charges using this defence, that it is amatter for parliament and parliament only...
M3333 said:
How comes second copies do not exist in Parliament?
You'd think that a submitted expenses receipt would be scanned / photocopied and put on file (by both the claimant and admin) how else would both be able to refer to them later if there were a problemThat all the copies of blairs expenses went missing, would to me (and most people) indicate that the most extreme of all the claimants is blair himself, I'll give winky credit, he's at least stood by his claims (even if they were fraudulent)
Going forward, I’m all for a reduction in the number of MP’s, a rise in pay to around £100k or so, no second home allowance and a firm rule that MP’s must have lived in their constituency for at least 5 years prior to election (how else can they know what matters to their constituents)
It won’t happen of course, even well thought of MP’s have their noses in the proverbial trough, Frank Field for example, well regarded by most people – second home is the one in his constituency, depriving him and his family of the rich tapestry of life in the area he represents!
Proof that nothing in this world is new
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyos-M48B8U
the only sad thing in this whole debacle is the lack of intelligent humour to destroy these odious nincompoops
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyos-M48B8U
the only sad thing in this whole debacle is the lack of intelligent humour to destroy these odious nincompoops
AndrewW-G said:
Going forward, I’m all for a reduction in the number of MP’s, a rise in pay to around £100k or so, no second home allowance and a firm rule that MP’s must have lived in their constituency for at least 5 years prior to election (how else can they know what matters to their constituents)
If only, makes me think of the Londoner career politician who is being golden parachuted into Wavertree.Halb said:
AndrewW-G said:
Going forward, I’m all for a reduction in the number of MP’s, a rise in pay to around £100k or so, no second home allowance and a firm rule that MP’s must have lived in their constituency for at least 5 years prior to election (how else can they know what matters to their constituents)
If only, makes me think of the Londoner career politician who is being golden parachuted into Wavertree.(Hopefully Ricky Tomlinson stops her getting elected!)
unrepentant said:
How the f
k have Uddin and Paul escaped prosecution?
One is still under investigation, Uddin.k have Uddin and Paul escaped prosecution?Background to the offence
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...
Not even going to comment on the Paul issue as my piss would become superheated.
Background to the situation.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...
Personally Her Maj should strip them of their titles and put them into a sweat shop down the East End having seized all assets under PoCA. (Note:-I am joking...)
...maybe
AndrewW-G said:
even well thought of MP’s have their noses in the proverbial trough
Lord Hannifield is my County Councillor. Don't know the bloke but met him many times. If ever there was a list of dodgy politician, I'd never have put him on it.If proven, it will be a pity as what he's done in Essex for Essex is pretty good!
Futuo said:
BrassMan said:
Futuo said:
High time we had some riots in the UK its been too long without one.
Bet the enquiry cost a hell of a lot more than was fiddled.
That's not the point. The courts aren't supposed to turn a profit (although it should cost less to run).Bet the enquiry cost a hell of a lot more than was fiddled.
The taxpayer will lose money overall - because the repayments will be less than the total bill for the Legg review, which stands at £1.16million.
ffs this is not about the money! At least for me it isn't.
It's about these bastids not doing their jobs properly, spending all their time thinking about moats and how many flat screen TVs and toilet seats they can charge for, and how many houses they can flip...
And sorting out their own salaries.
And sorting out their own pensions.
And stopping smoking in every bar in UK, oh except their own bars as they are exempt.
All the while failing to keep scrutiny whilst legislation is going through on the nod that has screwed up the country in so many ways, not just financially either, and has caused British lives to be lost, not just from military action, and has adversely materially affected the life situation of every single person in this country.
They have not been doing their jobs; and then we find that they can't be trusted to run the cash box of the school tuck shop let alone UK plc.
ffs
Yes I am Mr Angry!! It makes my blood boil.
It's about these bastids not doing their jobs properly, spending all their time thinking about moats and how many flat screen TVs and toilet seats they can charge for, and how many houses they can flip...
And sorting out their own salaries.
And sorting out their own pensions.
And stopping smoking in every bar in UK, oh except their own bars as they are exempt.
All the while failing to keep scrutiny whilst legislation is going through on the nod that has screwed up the country in so many ways, not just financially either, and has caused British lives to be lost, not just from military action, and has adversely materially affected the life situation of every single person in this country.
They have not been doing their jobs; and then we find that they can't be trusted to run the cash box of the school tuck shop let alone UK plc.
ffs
Yes I am Mr Angry!! It makes my blood boil.
Halb said:
AndrewW-G said:
Going forward, I’m all for a reduction in the number of MP’s, a rise in pay to around £100k or so, no second home allowance and a firm rule that MP’s must have lived in their constituency for at least 5 years prior to election (how else can they know what matters to their constituents)
If only, makes me think of the Londoner career politician who is being golden parachuted into Wavertree.t from labour, with south’s labour candidate being a deputy leader of Southwark (28 years old, female only list, no commercial experience!) and not currently even living in the area!Even though I disagree with Ricky Tomlinson’s policies, I think he'll represent the area far far better than somebody with little or no interest in the people or its culture
rev-erend said:
I thought it a bit weak that they would consider using the parliamentary privilige rule - after all Geoffery Archer was sent to jail when still an MP ..
just as it didn't protect Damian Green.It's too late for MPs to plead parliamentary privilege – they have systematically demolished it
If MPs don’t trust themselves to administer their own chamber, it is little surprise that they should be so careless of their sovereignty over the affairs of the nation.
rev-erend said:
I thought it a bit weak that they would consider using the parliamentary privilige rule - after all Geoffery Archer was sent to jail when still an MP ..
They're saying that they are immune 'cos it's a parliamentary issue...Archer's was out in the "real world"...it's a crock if they get away without being tried...Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff