The Great PH Political election.

The Great PH Political election.

Poll: The Great PH Political election.

Total Members Polled: 232

labour: 2%
Conservative: 56%
Lib Dem: 3%
UKIP: 29%
BNP: 6%
Other: 5%
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V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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TVR Moneypit said:
V8mate said:
TVR Moneypit said:

UKIP will be getting my vote if they stand in my area.
Don't act all surprised when you find Winky gurning out of your TV set on the morning of May 7th, as he nips back into No.10 for a cuppa, will you now?!
The result of the GE is by no means a forgone conclusion. Labour will cling to power by hook or by crook, and there is still plenty of idiots who would vote for them even if Gordon Brown had raped and murdered their children.

As much as I truely despise Labour and everything that tottalitarion(sp?) socialism stands for, todays Conservative party has little in it's manifesto that I consider to be true conservatism that interests me. Therefore I would rather vote for the party who I think would do the best job for the country, not the second worse.

David Cameron is a toothless tiger. I don't for one minute think that the Conservatives will be as bad for this country as Labour has been, but I don't think that they will do a fantastic job either.
I don't disagree with your summation of the Tory offer at all. All I was warning of was UKIP dividing the Tory vote with the result of the incumbents going nowhere.

don4l

10,058 posts

177 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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gamefreaks said:
wiffmaster said:
Conservative. Even though I much prefer UKIP's policies and feel somewhat of a sellout by not voting for them. But, can't risk Labour getting back in, and Conservatives are the only real opposition.
No, the UKIP have the most attractive policies, so that’s who I’ll vote for. Yes, we’ll get Labour for another 4 years, but then that’s something we’ll have to put up with.
A UKIP vote might result in a hung parliament. This would have two effects.
One, the Conservative party would ditch Cameron and get back to being conservative.
Two, the parliament would be short lived - probably no more than 2 years.

Then we would be given a proper choice.


As things stand, you could hardly put a fag paper between Labour and Conservative policies and spending plans. The country is bankrupt, and neither party has the balls to do anyhing about it. In the longer term, it would be better if Labour had to call in the IMF for the second time.

So, with great sadness, I will be voting UKIP.


Don
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F i F

44,140 posts

252 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Just a little bit of cheer for the Labour voters to warm the cockles.


What Gordon has done for Britain


whistle

st_files

5,427 posts

182 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Sad thing is that whomever is elected it wont make a difference. We'll be having the same complaints in 4/8 years time.

YAD061

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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F i F said:
Just a little bit of cheer for the Labour voters to warm the cockles.


What Gordon has done for Britain


whistle
Has any single man been responsible for such damage to the country since Hitler?

sonic_2k_uk

4,007 posts

208 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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F i F said:
Just a little bit of cheer for the Labour voters to warm the cockles.


What Gordon has done for Britain


whistle
Good article, thanks.

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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st_files said:
Sad thing is that whomever is elected it wont make a difference. We'll be having the same complaints in 4/8 years time.
Not at all.
The next four years will be the glory years for Browns succesor. As we rise out of recession (probably fairly quickly) everything will seem to be working.
THey will have inherited the country at its absolute rock bottom and will be able to do no wrong.

That is exactly why labour lasted so long. They seemed good at first!

Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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blindswelledrat said:
As we rise out of recession (probably fairly quickly) everything will seem to be working.
ORLY?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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I live in a safe Tory seat, the sitting MP is the Rt Hon Francis Fraud Maud and he's guaranteed to be re-elected. So I'll be voting UKIP as a protest vote that won't mean squat. If I lived in a marginal seat, I'd have to vote for CMD, but without any real enthusiasm.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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evenflow said:
wiffmaster said:
evenflow said:
Tangent Police said:
UKIP: Right, Libertarian
BNP: Left, Totalitarianish
Green: Centre, Collective Liberals
confused
The only thing they're Right wing on is race. Every other policy marks them out as extreme Left wing. Which means they're doubly wrong.
Didn't know that. I know nothing about them other than their stance on race (as portrayed in the media anyway). Interesting!
They are not extreme lefties. Read here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_National_Part...
You cannot sidle them, or other parties into such labels. But it is best to make up your own mind.
wiffmaster said:
V88Dicky said:
I beg to differ. Hitler, Mussolini et al were EXTREME Right Wing. So much so infact that when you go to the extremes of the political spectrum, and then go just a little bit further, the difference between them and their polar opposites on the left (Stalin / Hoxha etc), become virtually indistinguishable. tank
The NSDAP encompassed the far-right and far-left all at the same time. I agree that at the extremes, the line begins to blur. I guess the left/right line is better viewed as a circle.
I always thought of it as a circle, with Stalin as hard far left and Hitler as hard far right actually meeting as it bends round.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-right_politics

Edited by Halb on Friday 12th February 12:47

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
As we rise out of recession (probably fairly quickly) everything will seem to be working.
ORLY?
Ive no idea what that means. Orly? THats not a word surely?

YAD061

39,731 posts

285 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Bing o

15,184 posts

220 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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blindswelledrat said:
Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
As we rise out of recession (probably fairly quickly) everything will seem to be working.
ORLY?
Ive no idea what that means. Orly? THats not a word surely?
It's geek speak for "oh really".

I'd be interested to know what you think will drive us out of recession "fairly quickly"?

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

248 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
As we rise out of recession (probably fairly quickly) everything will seem to be working.
ORLY?
Ive no idea what that means. Orly? THats not a word surely?
It's geek speak for "oh really".

I'd be interested to know what you think will drive us out of recession "fairly quickly"?
High levels of growth in the Eurozone coupled with a weak pound leading to increased exports...



Oh wait...

blindswelledrat

25,257 posts

233 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
As we rise out of recession (probably fairly quickly) everything will seem to be working.
ORLY?
Ive no idea what that means. Orly? THats not a word surely?
It's geek speak for "oh really".

I'd be interested to know what you think will drive us out of recession "fairly quickly"?
"Fairly quickly" was just nondecript st irrelevant wording.
BY that I meant that even if we have a double dip recession (which we prbably wont) by next year we will be out of recession and growing which is a hell of a lot better than the final years of enduring Browns range thus Browns succesor will inevitably be seen as undoing his crap

F i F

44,140 posts

252 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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blindswelledrat said:
Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
Bing o said:
blindswelledrat said:
As we rise out of recession (probably fairly quickly) everything will seem to be working.
ORLY?
Ive no idea what that means. Orly? THats not a word surely?
It's geek speak for "oh really".

I'd be interested to know what you think will drive us out of recession "fairly quickly"?
"Fairly quickly" was just nondecript st irrelevant wording.
BY that I meant that even if we have a double dip recession (which we prbably wont) by next year we will be out of recession and growing which is a hell of a lot better than the final years of enduring Browns range thus Browns succesor will inevitably be seen as undoing his crap
I couldn't work out what a rather st French airport had to with the price of fish either.

My concern for some time has been that things would pick up in the first half of this year and thus Winky could say, "See! told ya!"

I think the best we can hope for now that Germman recovery is seen as a bit iffy, is a hung parliament, another election about 18 months or so after the next one, by which time Call Me Dave and Zac Fecking Goldsmith and all his cronies have been kicked into touch and the Conservatives are back to normal self and crush Labour into distant opposition for the rest of my time on this planet. Failing that it's escape plan time.

st_files

5,427 posts

182 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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F i F said:
Just a little bit of cheer for the Labour voters to warm the cockles.


What Gordon has done for Britain


whistle
In short, sterling is in the toilet, our pensions have been slaughtered, cash savings yield almost nothing, the country is up to its neck in unprecedented debt, the banking system is awash with funny money, our gold reserves were sold off at rock-bottom prices, and Britain’s dole queue is considerably longer than before Crash Gordon began cooking the books.

Apart from that, it’s not too bad.


Ouch....

Tangent Police

3,097 posts

177 months

Saturday 13th February 2010
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TVR Moneypit said:
V8mate said:
TVR Moneypit said:
V8mate said:
TVR Moneypit said:

UKIP will be getting my vote if they stand in my area.
Don't act all surprised when you find Winky gurning out of your TV set on the morning of May 7th, as he nips back into No.10 for a cuppa, will you now?!
The result of the GE is by no means a forgone conclusion. Labour will cling to power by hook or by crook, and there is still plenty of idiots who would vote for them even if Gordon Brown had raped and murdered their children.

As much as I truely despise Labour and everything that tottalitarion(sp?) socialism stands for, todays Conservative party has little in it's manifesto that I consider to be true conservatism that interests me. Therefore I would rather vote for the party who I think would do the best job for the country, not the second worse.

David Cameron is a toothless tiger. I don't for one minute think that the Conservatives will be as bad for this country as Labour has been, but I don't think that they will do a fantastic job either.
I don't disagree with your summation of the Tory offer at all. All I was warning of was UKIP dividing the Tory vote with the result of the incumbents going nowhere.
I understand and I agree.

I have posed this very same question, and asked for clarification on several of thier policys via email to Conservative HQ. All I have got in response was a bog standered reply along the lines of "if you don't like us / our policys, don't vote for us".

How to win friends and influance people eh?
They know the score, so fk you!

The majority of people who vote are passive rather than active (to use irritating buzzwords). It's either Cons vs Lab or Cons vs Lib Dems.

They know that your anger and subsequent perversion is irrelevant, which it is.

Here in Cornwall, we have some wet Tory ahole vs the Lib Dem asshole, it's the same soundbites, doublespeak, goal scoring nonsense.

Is it really worth my time to bother crossing a box that doesn't represent my views.

I'm seriously considering disrespecting my forefathers and not bothering. The pro-european socialists will get in regardless and I doubt I'll note any differences of accent or tie colour.

Humans are geared up to give a fk about their society/communities, but in this case, it's hopeless. We might as well look for better ways of protecting No1.

Socialism assumes that horrible capitalist scum are acting in their own interests. I might as well join their stereotype as no-one is acting in my interests.