Winky cynically uses dead daughter - desperation?

Winky cynically uses dead daughter - desperation?

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Zod

35,295 posts

259 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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528sport, it is abundantly clear that thiswhole event was stage-managed. They even leaked the fact that he cried a week before the interview is to be broadcast (a big mistake from a PR p.o.v.).

528Sport

1,431 posts

235 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Zod said:
528sport, it is abundantly clear that thiswhole event was stage-managed. They even leaked the fact that he cried a week before the interview is to be broadcast (a big mistake from a PR p.o.v.).
Fair enough. I have been hiding away from news and the likes over the last week as I have been busy setting my company up.

I wonder if the BBC will change its name if Cameron gets in CBC....



BarnatosGhost

31,608 posts

254 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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he's already lost anyone who'll think a little deeper about this. It'll play well with the morgan audience.

Campbell the genius is behind this.

SeeFive

8,280 posts

234 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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528Sport said:
Zod said:
528sport, it is abundantly clear that thiswhole event was stage-managed. They even leaked the fact that he cried a week before the interview is to be broadcast (a big mistake from a PR p.o.v.).
Fair enough. I have been hiding away from news and the likes over the last week as I have been busy setting my company up.

I wonder if the BBC will change its name if Cameron gets in CBC....
So what we are saying here is that it must have been Brown or his cronies who set it all up to make political capital out of his daughter's unfortunate death? Brown, as a parent going through such a tragic event (and his wife) have scruples so low that they would create such a scheme willingly. We are also saying that it couldn't possibly have been the broadcaster / presenter / production company who would want to leak such a rare piece of telly to increase their rating and advertising revenue potential?

Given the tragic subject matter, and the commercial nature of the broadcaster, and the "PR we" nature of the presenter, I would give Brown the benefit of the doubt just this once.

I think it is more likely to be commercial television at work.

Iain328

12,195 posts

207 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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SeeFive said:
528Sport said:
Zod said:
528sport, it is abundantly clear that thiswhole event was stage-managed. They even leaked the fact that he cried a week before the interview is to be broadcast (a big mistake from a PR p.o.v.).
Fair enough. I have been hiding away from news and the likes over the last week as I have been busy setting my company up.

I wonder if the BBC will change its name if Cameron gets in CBC....
So what we are saying here is that it must have been Brown or his cronies who set it all up to make political capital out of his daughter's unfortunate death? Brown, as a parent going through such a tragic event (and his wife) have scruples so low that they would create such a scheme willingly. We are also saying that it couldn't possibly have been the broadcaster / presenter / production company who would want to leak such a rare piece of telly to increase their rating and advertising revenue potential?

Given the tragic subject matter, and the commercial nature of the broadcaster, and the "PR we" nature of the presenter, I would give Brown the benefit of the doubt just this once.

I think it is more likely to be commercial television at work.
Uh huh. Recorded the same weekend as that odious spin-meister Campbell starts blubbing on Andre Marr about how mis-understood he & Bliar were + Pauline Prescott takes over half the Mail on Sunday to lay out all the gory details of Prezza's infidelity but that how, being good sorts that they are, they've worked it all out rolleyes

All desperatly trying to "connect" with the voters - nauseating in the extreme.

Edited by Iain328 on Friday 12th February 16:25

Mclovin

1,679 posts

199 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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if he gets votes and stays put for this sickening act i think we will deserve the soverign default he is leading us to....

SeeFive

8,280 posts

234 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Iain328 said:
Uh huh. Recorded the same weekend as that odious spin-meister Campbell starts blubbing on Andre Marr about how mis-understood he & Bliar were + Pauline Prescott takes over half the Mail on Sunday to lay out all the gory details of Prezza's infidelity but that how, being good sorts that they are, they've worked it all out rolleyes

All desperatly trying to "connect" with the voters - nauseating in the extreme.

Edited by Iain328 on Friday 12th February 16:25
Ah, that's my mistake - not reading the Mail on Sunday.

The way I saw it, the Brown thing was a car crash TV moment that the TV company was trying to exploit in the ratings war and advertiser revenue. IMO, on the Marr show, Campbell presented himself as an unprofessional, over emotional tt that should have no place in the decision process of running our country when he blubbed about good old BLiar.

I like emotional people in my private life, but not in business, and running this country ought to be businesslike. On that basis, this cannot be good PR if they are trying to attract a voter with any modicum of the power of thought. And let's be honest, they already have the other lot on board.

As I said earlier, I have not seen the program yet, but given the fact that he and his wife lost a child, I can see no way that he would use that for PR, or his wife would conspire with him. They are not complete monsters surely?

It is dangerous territory for Labour to try this with Brown - the repercussions would be so severe. The TV company has most to gain from the Morgan show, as the Marr show did on the Campbell interview - albeit less tragic, therefore I can agree potentially more likely to be contrived at less risk.

pilchardthecat

7,483 posts

180 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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SeeFive said:
I like emotional people in my private life, but not in business, and running this country ought to be businesslike. On that basis, this cannot be good PR if they are trying to attract a voter with any modicum of the power of thought. And let's be honest, they already have the other lot on board.
"The single greatest argument against democracy is a ten minute conversation with the average voter"
Winston Churchill

audidoody

8,597 posts

257 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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SeeFive said:
528Sport said:
Zod said:
528sport, it is abundantly clear that thiswhole event was stage-managed. They even leaked the fact that he cried a week before the interview is to be broadcast (a big mistake from a PR p.o.v.).
Fair enough. I have been hiding away from news and the likes over the last week as I have been busy setting my company up.

I wonder if the BBC will change its name if Cameron gets in CBC....
I would give Brown the benefit of the doubt just this once.

I think it is more likely to be commercial television at work.
Indeed. If the agreement was that Brown would have no idea of the questions he would face, and that it would be an unedited broadcast, and that he would have no right to preview the video, and that the media would not be allowed to preview the show, and that he would not be able to chose his interrogator.

Now.

How many of those conditions to you think were met?

callisto

62 posts

174 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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SeeFive said:
As I said earlier, I have not seen the program yet, but given the fact that he and his wife lost a child, I can see no way that he would use that for PR, or his wife would conspire with him. They are not complete monsters surely?
Why not? The whole marriage was a sham, Gordon is well known to be a shirt-lifter, along with most of the labour puppet masters. He only got married and had a kid for PR purposes as he realised no PM could ever make it without becoming a "family man"

I imagine the only true emotion he showed was when he smashed the late poor mites cot to smithereens in yet another outburst of rage. Probably lost another mobile phone too.

Langweilig

4,329 posts

212 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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What utter hypocrisy! Think of our soldiers wounded in Afghanistan and what they now have to endure. Gordon, go to Wooton Bassett or visit the hospitals where our wounded are and then shed tears for them!

grumbledoak

31,548 posts

234 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Langweilig said:
What utter hypocrisy! Think of our soldiers wounded in Afghanistan and what they now have to endure. Gordon, go to Wooton Bassett or visit the hospitals where our wounded are and then shed tears for them!
Didn't he try that recently, only to have the soldiers close their blinds on him?

ETA- Yes, at Selly Oak: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...


Edited by grumbledoak on Friday 12th February 20:46

turbobloke

104,022 posts

261 months

Friday 12th February 2010
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Langweilig said:
What utter hypocrisy! Think of our soldiers wounded in Afghanistan and what they now have to endure. Gordon, go to Wooton Bassett or visit the hospitals where our wounded are and then shed tears for them!
Agreed. And then some more for the wounded nation, still in intensive care due to Bliar and Brown.

Desperation indeed.