Herman van Rompuy - Who are you?

Herman van Rompuy - Who are you?

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elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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bitwrx said:
I'm sorry, but insulting people in public is just not on. I'm ashamed that Farage represents my nation abroad.

I'd be tempted to call him a , but that would be insulting him in public, so I won't.
At least he is standing up and saying something about us losing our rights.

Everyone else just seems to act like a nodding dog.

AJLintern

4,202 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Being the UKIP bloke, he's going to have a tough job getting much influence with the EU at the best of times. Things like this are only going to reinforce their views and undermine anything he says in future rolleyes

Police State

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4,068 posts

221 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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bitwrx said:
I'm sorry, but insulting people in public is just not on. I'm ashamed that Farage represents my nation abroad.

I'd be tempted to call him a , but that would be insulting him in public, so I won't.
Van Rompuy is a public figure. Yes he insulted him... with the truth; and for that reason I don't see a problem with what he said, or hwo he said it. These elitist 'leaders' will given half a chance, insult you for the rest of your life, and it will be one-way only; you will never be given the opportunity to respond, unless of course you do what Nigel Farage has done, and get yourself elected into their inner sanctum.

grumbledoak

31,548 posts

234 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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AJLintern said:
Being the UKIP bloke, he's going to have a tough job getting much influence with the EU at the best of times. Things like this are only going to reinforce their views and undermine anything he says in future rolleyes
No. UKIP's views are well enough known that they could not be hidden now. This might garner them some support here, or even allow other MEPs to put their own head above the parapet.

Look at what has happenned to MMGW since Climategate. Only a few months ago the number and qualifications of people prepared to speak against it was so tiny they could be ignored. No longer.

Edited by grumbledoak on Wednesday 24th February 22:58


Edited by grumbledoak on Wednesday 24th February 23:00

AJLintern

4,202 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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There are ways of conducting yourself to achieve such things though - what he said may be true enough, but if you want to remain credible you've got to be a bit more subtle than that.

grumbledoak

31,548 posts

234 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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AJLintern said:
There are ways of conducting yourself to achieve such things though - what he said may be true enough, but if you want to remain credible you've got to be a bit more subtle than that.
Do you think any of the other parties' MEPs will share a lunch table with UKIP? Their views are well enough known, have been since the name was coined. They could hardly get less support among the gravy trainers.

AJLintern

4,202 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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So you're saying as they have no credibility within the EU anyway, they have nothing to lose by behaving this way? I guess it's one way of stimulating some publicity for their views! smile

bitwrx

1,352 posts

205 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Police State said:
bitwrx said:
I'm sorry, but insulting people in public is just not on. I'm ashamed that Farage represents my nation abroad.

I'd be tempted to call him a , but that would be insulting him in public, so I won't.
Van Rompuy is a public figure. Yes he insulted him... with the truth; and for that reason I don't see a problem with what he said, or hwo he said it. These elitist 'leaders' will given half a chance, insult you for the rest of your life, and it will be one-way only; you will never be given the opportunity to respond, unless of course you do what Nigel Farage has done, and get yourself elected into their inner sanctum.
The man's resemblance to a wet rag, or a rodent, may be the truth in your opinion, and that of Farage, but it has nothing to do with what Rompuy stands for.

If there is so much wrong with what these people stand for, and what they are trying to achieve, there is no need for cheap shots at their appearance.

grumbledoak

31,548 posts

234 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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AJLintern said:
So you're saying as they have no credibility within the EU anyway, they have nothing to lose by behaving this way? I guess it's one way of stimulating some publicity for their views! smile
Pretty much. The committed gravy trainers won't give them the time of day, nor the Commission. Yet, if he is seen as gaining public support here for being honest, there are other countries where the public are sceptical- look at the so-called 'Referendum' results. It might encourage other MEPs...

Ed Fender

853 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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It gave me a laugh, if nothing else.

They've been taking the piss out of us for years, after all.

AJLintern

4,202 posts

264 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Fair enough, but still maybe a bit OTT even for people who might support them. Attacks on someone's appearance is below the belt - he could have put forward basically the same argument without crossing that line.

Ed Fender

853 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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AJLintern said:
Fair enough, but still maybe a bit OTT even for people who might support them. Attacks on someone's appearance is below the belt - he could have put forward basically the same argument without crossing that line.
I agree in part. But there's still a bit of a juvenile chuckle to be had at some of Farage's antics. His disrespect for their pomposity and sense of entitlement must drive them mental at times.

EDLT

15,421 posts

207 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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Do other european countries have their own version of UKIP, its just that we don't here about any other "opposition" parties?

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Wednesday 24th February 2010
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EDLT said:
Do other european countries have their own version of UKIP, its just that we don't here about any other "opposition" parties?
Oh yeah. There are quite a few of them.

Danish especially.

Puggit

48,479 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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elster said:
EDLT said:
Do other european countries have their own version of UKIP, its just that we don't here about any other "opposition" parties?
Oh yeah. There are quite a few of them.

Danish especially.
And the BNP!

A bit more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euroscepticism

Bonefish Blues

26,824 posts

224 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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odyssey2200 said:
Farage proving, once again that he is exactly the same self-serving, let's get re-elected at all costs type of politician as Winky and CMD.
EFA wink

Trommel

19,144 posts

260 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Farage is an idiot.

I imagine he is trying to get himself ejected for more publicity.

dandarez

13,293 posts

284 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Farage an idiot? He's a ruddy sight more articulate than most twits we have, especially the lot we have at the moment.

It's about time we had someone stand up and 'tell it like it is'.
As for there being ways of conducting yourself in public... b*ll*cks!

This is where we have been going wrong.
Ruddy wet-nursed shower we have at the moment.

Van Rom 'pee all'o'erus' is described as a rat. Too true, and he's on the ruddy EU sinking ship, which our current shower would all jump with him, whereas Farage would be more likely to stay on the ship and help out.

We need a United Kingdom, with its Independence back!

Balmoral Green

40,943 posts

249 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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He's gone down in my estimation, by quite a lot in fact. Attack the politics, attack the institution by all means, he is UKIP afterall, but that personal tirade was just appalling.

robm3

4,930 posts

228 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Balmoral Green said:
He's gone down in my estimation, by quite a lot in fact. Attack the politics, attack the institution by all means, he is UKIP afterall, but that personal tirade was just appalling.
Ah, but it's got us talking and the issue to the forefront....