Methadrone to become illegal ?
Discussion
mvagustaobsessed said:
My best friend works in a shop where it's sold as meows. She takes at least a gram a day and anything up to four or five. I've watched it destroy her over the last twelve months as her body and mind have been destroyed. So if anyone has any doubts about the dangers and the addictive quality of the drug, please take it from me, it's bad bad news.
That's junkie scum for you though. You have certain people who get (or at least think they are) addicted to anything.Here are a few of shulgins other efforts (he designed E in his shed)
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/...
They have a lot to ban.
They will need some proper gear to discriminate between lots of those chemically.
http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/pihkal/...
They have a lot to ban.
They will need some proper gear to discriminate between lots of those chemically.
I love it when mass hysteria grips the media and they bow down to it. The parade of 'experts' popping up on the BBC to cry for a ban on a drug they haven't taken and have yet to see hard medical evidence on it. It's because it has the word 'drug' stuck to it the mass hysteria is whipped up and it will no doubt end up being banned, especially with voting time round the corner. Does this remind anyone of Brass Eye's cake episode?
Yes I'm sorry for the 2 teenagers who died and their families but they had also taken a concoction of other drugs and drank hell of a lot too. Kids also die from drinking alcohol but that's a legal drug that brings money into the governments pockets, they want to bring down the binge drinking rates but not too much to damage the revenue it brings in so they don't make a serious stab at making any real difference. It's the double standards that really grates. Mephedrone might be proved to be less harmful than alcohol but people will still continue to let their underage children have a glass of wine with Sunday lunch because it's a socially acceptable drug.
I can't make an informed decision whether it should be banned or not, I've never taken it nor do I ever intend to, I haven't read a scientific study into it. It might be proved to be harmless and if people want to bend their minds on this rather than use alcohol then fair play to them. If it is proved to be more dangerous then a ban would be appropriate.
Yes I'm sorry for the 2 teenagers who died and their families but they had also taken a concoction of other drugs and drank hell of a lot too. Kids also die from drinking alcohol but that's a legal drug that brings money into the governments pockets, they want to bring down the binge drinking rates but not too much to damage the revenue it brings in so they don't make a serious stab at making any real difference. It's the double standards that really grates. Mephedrone might be proved to be less harmful than alcohol but people will still continue to let their underage children have a glass of wine with Sunday lunch because it's a socially acceptable drug.
I can't make an informed decision whether it should be banned or not, I've never taken it nor do I ever intend to, I haven't read a scientific study into it. It might be proved to be harmless and if people want to bend their minds on this rather than use alcohol then fair play to them. If it is proved to be more dangerous then a ban would be appropriate.
mvagustaobsessed said:
My best friend works in a shop where it's sold as meows. She takes at least a gram a day and anything up to four or five. I've watched it destroy her over the last twelve months as her body and mind have been destroyed. So if anyone has any doubts about the dangers and the addictive quality of the drug, please take it from me, it's bad bad news.
Nothing to do with her abusing it or anything.Nooooo, it's all the drugs fault. Not hers.
Rusty Arches said:
mvagustaobsessed said:
My best friend works in a shop where it's sold as meows. She takes at least a gram a day and anything up to four or five. I've watched it destroy her over the last twelve months as her body and mind have been destroyed. So if anyone has any doubts about the dangers and the addictive quality of the drug, please take it from me, it's bad bad news.
Nothing to do with her abusing it or anything.Nooooo, it's all the drugs fault. Not hers.
I also know people who have become 'addicted' to cars and ended up wrecking their bodies in them, I know people who have ruined their lives over alcohol, girlfriend's father ruined his life, ended up with a heart attack and type 2 diabetes from eating too much fatty food all his life but I wouldn't say take it from me, fried breakfasts are lethal, everyone steer clear of them because that's one isolated case.
Tonberry said:
As I said in another thread, a mate of mine claims to sell it.
The stories he tells me makes me believe it will soon become a serious problem.
It may well be, and if it will cause such a problem it would be good to see it banned. But I would like to see it banned on grounds of independent medical evidence rather than the government pandering to the whims of the mass media whipping up public hysteria and vote-winning like they did in the Professor Nutt sacking farceThe stories he tells me makes me believe it will soon become a serious problem.
Edited by Dibby on Thursday 18th March 12:45
I'm too old and sensible for that kind of thing these days, but even if I were not I don't think I would be volunteering to field test novel recreational pharmaceuticals - a drugs policy based on scrambling to criminalise whatever new substance comes out is just going to result in a succession of new substances with unknown risks being temporarily legal. Better the devil you know.
Wonder why the sudden mephedrone bandwaggon when there are a million and one of these things about: LINKY. Suppose there's a bit of a craze among the kids for it right now but give it 6 months and it'll be something else, 12 months ago it was GBL, Kava, Spice, BZP, DMT, Salvia, LHA
What was wrong with plain old Uhu and Tip-Ex
What was wrong with plain old Uhu and Tip-Ex
I have taken this a few times, and being someone that isn't really "into" drugs that much I really enjoy it.
I have looked into it quite a lot in the past few months and even though its been branded as a plant fertiliser.. I understand it to the actually from the Khat plant in Morrocco and south africa, although dried out and sold from China.
South Africans chew on the leaf of the khat plant at weddings and parties to get a high as opposed to drinking... and actually Jamie Oliver when on one of his travelling cookery programs chewed a leaf of a khat plant and was tripping on tv !
I am sure that anything that creates you to feel high, or increases your heat rate etc etc is not good for you, however I hate how the British media are trying scare mongering tactics.. who in their right mind would take a heroin substitute to induce a comedown ?! this is poor education, and is the leah betts situation all over again..
I have looked into it quite a lot in the past few months and even though its been branded as a plant fertiliser.. I understand it to the actually from the Khat plant in Morrocco and south africa, although dried out and sold from China.
South Africans chew on the leaf of the khat plant at weddings and parties to get a high as opposed to drinking... and actually Jamie Oliver when on one of his travelling cookery programs chewed a leaf of a khat plant and was tripping on tv !
I am sure that anything that creates you to feel high, or increases your heat rate etc etc is not good for you, however I hate how the British media are trying scare mongering tactics.. who in their right mind would take a heroin substitute to induce a comedown ?! this is poor education, and is the leah betts situation all over again..
Devilstreak said:
JB! said:
I've got a big weekend of "gardening" coming up, anyone know anywhere MK/Northants where i can get some top-quality "fertilizer"
Google is your friend.The newsreader on the news last night had "over 5000 hits" on places to get it delivered to his door via next day delivery.
them plants gonna be well fed!
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