Methadrone to become illegal ?

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militantmandy

3,829 posts

187 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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As with everything, experiences between different individuals vary massively. I have taken a very, very substantial amount of mephedrone in one (long) sitting. Too much for sure. Certainly had very high heart rate but no paranoia, hallucinations or comedown. I've greatly enjoyed it on many occasions with absolutely no negative side effects at all. No doubt if you utterly cain it you can wreck yourself, but I'm pretty damn sure that's true of most things.

As for folk nailing it instead of K....? In what universe is a speedy high that takes the edge of booze and smoke a substitute for a dissociative hallucinogen!? As well as perhaps...

maxrider

2,481 posts

237 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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FFS it's in the article THIRTEEN times...

MEPHEDRONE!

banghead

peterperkins

3,152 posts

243 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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"Methadrone to become illegal ?"

Good! Next question please. grumpy

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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So having drugs cut with god knows what is a good thing??

Are there any actual documented deaths?

All getting a bit leah betts.

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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And the long term effects of MDMA, Pills, Coke were known before large proportions of the public started using them?

Fittster

20,120 posts

214 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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Where as the people making pills are all a bunch of organic hippies who only put the finest chemicals in their pills.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Fittster said:
anonymous said:
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So having drugs cut with god knows what is a good thing??

Are there any actual documented deaths?

All getting a bit leah betts.
I didn't say that

Average J Bloggs gets his bit of Charly off his dealer, its maybe (lets be generous) 45% coke 55% st
1 line of that is going to cause him to react in a way he is used to and understands

Along come Meph and its 100% pure, the same line is going to have a much bigger and potentially more dangerous impact

Fittster said:
anonymous said:
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And the long term effects of MDMA, Pills, Coke were known before large proportions of the public started using them?
No they weren't




Fittster said:
anonymous said:
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Where as the people making pills are all a bunch of organic hippies who only put the finest chemicals in their pills.
No but again the base compound is going to be what the user expects and to be fair having seen the results of some Police drugs tests it would appear that a lot of Pills and MDMA are exactly that, no rat poison, no ajax etc

Coke however......

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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45% is more than generous, it doesn't exist in this country.

You can't compare coke to MCat, they are two very different things.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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elster said:
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45% is more than generous, it doesn't exist in this country.

You can't compare coke to MCat, they are two very different things.
Yeah I thought so

Yes and No, MCat is meant to be the middle ground between Coke and MD

I was just using it as a comparison as IMO and in my experience albeit limited I would say MCat is the more dangerous of the 2 due to its purity, cost and availability

Frankeh

12,558 posts

186 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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It's a bit hilarious the amount of people claiming to be educated in the effects of Mephedrone yet can't spell it.

I've done it. I've done it a fair bit and it really makes you off your rocker talkative. So much so that I've decided to pack it in.

You looks like a right crack 'ed on it.

It's funny though, I'll give it that. Bloody intensive though. Me and a few friends recorded our heart rates after doing some at rest. 110bpm+.
Mine is usually 65-70 at rest.

I'd rather not have a heart attack at 21.

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Looks like we're sharing experiences. The most I've ever done in a night is 1g and I wouldn't want to do that again.
I don't snort anything because:
1) It's habit forming
2) It looks dirty
3) You can't snort in the middle of a club
4) My nose is only little anyway and gives me enough trouble as is. Not going to make it worse with drugs.

So every time i've done it I've bombed (Wrapped it up in rizla and swallow).

The effects I have had are:

1) Huge increase in heart rate
2) Saucer pupils. There's no hiding it. My iris is pretty much gone.
3) Feeling of empathy with anyone and everyone. Chatting to some dirty squatter like he was my best friend. Bought £10 worth of skittles and gave them to a bemused tramp with the instructions to taste the rainbow..
4) Inhibitions = gone.

The effects I have heard of (in news papers and on the the internet) but none of my friends or me have experienced:

1) Blue knees. This seems to happen when the person in question does it then sits at home and wks to porn. I have no idea why you'd want to do that but it's the one thing I can find in common with the people who report it.

2) Death. None proven. One girl who lives with me died while on it. She was 14 but had a hereditary condition. Newspapers never printed the retraction to their claim it was caused by Mephedrone.




Edited by Frankeh on Wednesday 10th March 15:43

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Frankeh said:
It's a bit hilarious the amount of people claiming to be educated in the effects of Mephedrone yet can't spell it.
OK then

4-methyl-N-methylcathinone

C11H15NO

Everything else is just a nickname and can be spelt however, there is no trademarked name for it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Frankeh said:
It's a bit hilarious the amount of people claiming to be educated in the effects of Mephedrone yet can't spell it.

I've done it. I've done it a fair bit and it really makes you off your rocker talkative. So much so that I've decided to pack it in.

You looks like a right crack 'ed on it.

It's funny though, I'll give it that. Bloody intensive though. Me and a few friends recorded our heart rates after doing some at rest. 110bpm+.
Mine is usually 65-70 at rest.

I'd rather not have a heart attack at 21.

Edit:

Looks like we're sharing experiences. The most I've ever done in a night is 1g and I wouldn't want to do that again.
I don't snort anything because:
1) It's habit forming
2) It looks dirty
3) You can't snort in the middle of a club
4) My nose is only little anyway and gives me enough trouble as is. Not going to make it worse with drugs.

So every time i've done it I've bombed (Wrapped it up in rizla and swallow).

The effects I have had are:

1) Huge increase in heart rate
2) Saucer pupils. There's no hiding it. My iris is pretty much gone.
3) Feeling of empathy with anyone and everyone. Chatting to some dirty squatter like he was my best friend.
4) Inhibitions = gone.

The effects I have heard of (in news papers and on the the internet) but none of my friends or me have experienced:

1) Blue knees. This seems to happen when the person in question does it then sits at home and wks to porn. I have no idea why you'd want to do that but it's the one thing I can find in common with the people who report it.

2) Death. None proven. One girl who lives with me died while on it. She was 14 but had a hereditary condition. Newspapers never printed the retraction to their claim it was caused by Mephedrone.


Edited by Frankeh on Wednesday 10th March 15:40
Seeing as we are sharing

We did about .75 of a gram each, 2 of us snorted, 2 bombed

The effects from bombing seem to be calmer and more pilly, the snorting is what gives you the real bang rush, which I dont like

I agree with you on all the other points 100% and its something I have said I will never touch again, the only drug to have that effect on me before was K

Have heard about the blueness and I think there was a girl in Sweden who's death has been attributed to it but not sure

Hallucinations, 2 of my friends (One Bomb, One Snort) both suffered awful hallucinations on the comedown along with deep feelings off depression, so much so that we wouldn't let them leave until they were through it, we were that worried about them

tonyvid

9,869 posts

244 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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^^^^ those two long posts above....Christ, the good bits must be great to risk the rest, you're both bonkers!!! smile

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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tonyvid said:
^^^^ those two long posts above....Christ, the good bits must be great to risk the rest, you're both bonkers!!! smile
He he, to be honest it's a bit of a catch 22 situation

I love Drum and Bass and Dance music, I have grown up going to clubs that get going at 12-1 and finish at 6-7, Pills and MDMA go hand in hand with these

I used to be at it every weekend, now with age and a degree of sensibility I limit this to once maybe twice a year (I am 31)

Pill and MDMA are very hard to get hold off nowadays, coke is easy but doesnt provide the same effect or longevity of effect

This is the reason MCat has been such a success as it is cheap, legal and can be delivered to your door

To be honest I think that last experience has put me off the lot of it now, I'm sure I'll partake in a smoke from time to time and some Charlie but I think my clubbing days are done frown

mccarn

641 posts

198 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Will echo most of what has been said, its definately very moreish. If your taking it your aswell buying a small amount because chances are you will have "just one more line" till its gone. Experience wise, very enjoyable, talkative (ableit talking bks all night), euphoric, just a nice buzz. Heart rate was pretty high but nothing uncomrtable, no higher than hard exercise. As mentioned though, very morish. Ended up consuming 1g over a 12 hour period. High was pretty intense but had no real side effects/comedown. Felt a bit spaced the next day but apart from that fine. Would only do it now and again though because it can't be good for you.

Frankeh

12,558 posts

186 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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I think we'd be good friends if we met..
Was meant to see Rusko tonight but work tomorrow wont be nice and I dont want to do any drugs tbh..

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Frankeh said:
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I think we'd be good friends if we met..
Was meant to see Rusko tonight but work tomorrow wont be nice and I dont want to do any drugs tbh..
Hadn't heard of Rusko, just googled more Dubstep? Am just getting into that now, Skream, Benga etc

Yeah work wouldn't be fun, in my youth I used to do it but couldn't now

I went to Matter last weekend for the Hospital Records night, just not the same if you aren't off it frown

Frankeh

12,558 posts

186 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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anonymous said:
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100% agreement.
I'm an introvert the second i'm made to dance so clubbing sober is not an option and alcohol makes you too unstable so there's only a limited amount of choice :P

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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Frankeh said:
anonymous said:
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100% agreement.
I'm an introvert the second i'm made to dance so clubbing sober is not an option and alcohol makes you too unstable so there's only a limited amount of choice :P
Exactly!! Just stay away from that st biggrin


anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 10th March 2010
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The actual spelling is 'Mephedrone'.
I take drone quite regularly on nights out, its gives you a great buzz and can be a lot of fun.
I cant say its addictive, but I guess it would be possible to become addicted in the way that some people become addicted to the most stupid of things.
I've not had any bad experiences on it, the worst thing me or any friends get is the inability to sleep after taking a reasonable amount (i often wont sleep for 10-15 hours after the last time of taking it. It can also make you very fidgety, gives you pupils like flying saucers and can make you gurn a bit.
It will become illegal at some point this year, the government cant be seen to allow any kind of drug to be legal. Though when it becomes illegal, the manufacturers will just change the chemical formula so that it skirts around the law.
I'm in no way promoting this as a safe drug or saying that anyone should try it, just giving my experiences.

edit: spellings

Edited by anonymous-user on Wednesday 10th March 17:23