Methadrone to become illegal ?

[didelydoo]

M-cat was great fun, madly intense for a legal drug- much stronger than many pills i'd taken back in the day; wouldn't like to do it regularly though. Had to try it so as to compare to my days of yore!

[mccarn]

After "feeding my plants a little bit earlier" I can safely say it is wonderful.

Yes it has risk ,but doesn't everything

Anybody got any suggestions for decent trance for my plants to listen to?

[Frankeh]

The reviews on the websites are hilarious.

"Gave some of this to my plants and they didn't sleep for 2 days"

"My plants did some the other week at a rave and chewed their petals off"

etc

[elster]

mccarn said:

After "feeding my plants a little bit earlier" I can safely say it is wonderful.

Yes it has risk ,but doesn't everything

Anybody got any suggestions for decent trance for my plants to listen to?

What kind of trance?

Don1's mixes on here are very good. Essential mix wise Above and Beyond, Sasha, Matt Hardwick and Armin van Buuren No1 are ones to recommend.

I find my plants responded best to the classic Sasha set.

[DownUnder.]

Your all being very daft with what is promising to be a VERY addicitive drug... Trust me, i've just come off my first night out (albeit VERy early) without this drug since september. Let me promise you it's addictive, i'm addicted to it, had to leave early tonight through temptation...

Its hit Liverpool hard; in medication tonight i swear at least 80 % of the people in their were on it. Swerve ruining my life to some stty legal high, bring back good pills (facebooks are now on the scene) and decent coke and MDMA which can now be seen as competing with it...

[SunderJimmy]

Pistonheads - speed matters.

[Don1]

elster said:

mccarn said:

After "feeding my plants a little bit earlier" I can safely say it is wonderful.

Yes it has risk ,but doesn't everything

Anybody got any suggestions for decent trance for my plants to listen to?

What kind of trance?

Don1's mixes on here are very good. Essential mix wise Above and Beyond, Sasha, Matt Hardwick and Armin van Buuren No1 are ones to recommend.

I find my plants responded best to the classic Sasha set.

Wow - praise indeed - many thanks! Website is here: http://www.djschrism-don1.com Back on topic, I have tried this stuff, and had a wonderful night. We drank it suspended in solution, and had a mouthful and carried on. No come-down, was able to sleep, and really enjoyed myself. I look forward to the next time, but think it is a addition to an evening, not the main event.

Background - Trance clubber, DJ and general animal on the smarties, for about a decade. Now older (not much wiser), and very rarely get out, let alone party that way.

[Frankeh]

DownUnder. said:

Your all being very daft with what is promising to be a VERY addicitive drug... Trust me, i've just come off my first night out (albeit VERy early) without this drug since september. Let me promise you it's addictive, i'm addicted to it, had to leave early tonight through temptation...

Its hit Liverpool hard; in medication tonight i swear at least 80 % of the people in their were on it. Swerve ruining my life to some stty legal high, bring back good pills (facebooks are now on the scene) and decent coke and MDMA which can now be seen as competing with it...

Wanting to do it at a club is not being addicted, it's wanting to enhance the night.
Sitting at home and thinking "Gosh, I could go for some mephedrone right about now...".
That's addiction imo.

[cyberface]

Frankeh said:

DownUnder. said:

Your all being very daft with what is promising to be a VERY addicitive drug... Trust me, i've just come off my first night out (albeit VERy early) without this drug since september. Let me promise you it's addictive, i'm addicted to it, had to leave early tonight through temptation...

Its hit Liverpool hard; in medication tonight i swear at least 80 % of the people in their were on it. Swerve ruining my life to some stty legal high, bring back good pills (facebooks are now on the scene) and decent coke and MDMA which can now be seen as competing with it...

Wanting to do it at a club is not being addicted, it's wanting to enhance the night.
Sitting at home and thinking "Gosh, I could go for some mephedrone right about now...".
That's addiction imo.

Yup, but miaow is a bit moreish and there's always the temptation to top-up and top-up. Until you've got through a couple of grams, you've burnt out all your serotonin and dopamine and you're running on empty. So try to sleep (not easy), and then the typical three or four days of full-on depression from the depletion of neurotransmitters (primarily serotonin) hits you hard.

You can try to alleviate these effects by pre-loading on 5-HTP or after-dosing with fluoxetine or some other SSRI but interactions between the beta-ketones and SSRIs are largely unknown and 'largely unknown' in psychopharmacology equals 'fking dangerous' in my book.

The beta-ketones (all of 'em - mephedrone, methylone, butylone, etc.) all feel 'dirty' as hell to me. Yes, some of the suppliers are selling poorly manufactured product from China with industrial levels of impurities and unreacted precursors (methylamine is the killer - nasty, nasty stuff), but even the purest, cleanest methylone I've seen made my brain feel like it'd been kicked around a rugby pitch the day after.

This was a couple of years ago mind you. It seems that it's really BIG now, perhaps I caught wind of it when it was fairly new stuff.

Personally, I actually had some left and threw it away. The side-effects aren't really worth the hassle, there are much cleaner drugs out there. And not enough research has been done on the beta-ketones to prove their safety. That's the question each one of you need to ask yourself when taking 'research chemicals'. Google MPTP to see what happens when it goes wrong.

[Devilstreak]

Frankeh said:

The reviews on the websites are hilarious.

"Gave some of this to my plants and they didn't sleep for 2 days"

"My plants did some the other week at a rave and chewed their petals off"

etc

They're brilliant. It has also hit Nottingham hard too. Go to any club and i'd say 50%, if not more are on it.

I've no doubt it will become illegal, but it won't stop anyone that wants to use it. Just like coke/pills/MDMA.

[militantmandy]

typical three or four days of full-on depression from the depletion of neurotransmitters (primarily serotonin) hits you hard."

Really? This sounds like an epic exaggeration to me. Do you get massive come downs of e\mdma? I've never, ever experienced this, even after some of the most filthy, depraved weekends in memory.

[maix27]

militantmandy said:

typical three or four days of full-on depression from the depletion of neurotransmitters (primarily serotonin) hits you hard."

Really? This sounds like an epic exaggeration to me. Do you get massive come downs of e\mdma? I've never, ever experienced this, even after some of the most filthy, depraved weekends in memory.

You lucky bd.

[Frankeh]

maix27 said:

militantmandy said:

typical three or four days of full-on depression from the depletion of neurotransmitters (primarily serotonin) hits you hard."

Really? This sounds like an epic exaggeration to me. Do you get massive come downs of e\mdma? I've never, ever experienced this, even after some of the most filthy, depraved weekends in memory.

You lucky bd.

I'm going to have to mirror his experiences. Personally I don't get much of a comedown.
E or Pills is a whole different matter. The next day is a write off.

[militantmandy]

Suppose i'l chalk it up to my general awesomeness then! ;-) Pretty good with hangovers too, maybe my body has just given up trying to tell me what a tt I am....

[hornetrider]

This thread disturbs me. Sooo many recreational hallucinogenic drug users on PH. Well I never.

[maix27]

militantmandy said:

Suppose i'l chalk it up to my general awesomeness then! ;-) Pretty good with hangovers too, maybe my body has just given up trying to tell me what a tt I am....

Alright, don't rub it in

[militantmandy]

maix27 said:

militantmandy said:

Suppose i'l chalk it up to my general awesomeness then! ;-) Pretty good with hangovers too, maybe my body has just given up trying to tell me what a tt I am....

Alright, don't rub it in

Rub it in you say? There's a technique I've not tried!

[Frankeh]

hornetrider said:

This thread disturbs me. Sooo many recreational hallucinogenic drug users on PH. Well I never.

Whatever you do, don't visit the LSD thread. You might fall off your chair.

[hornetrider]

Frankeh said:

hornetrider said:

This thread disturbs me. Sooo many recreational hallucinogenic drug users on PH. Well I never.

Whatever you do, don't visit the LSD thread. You might fall off your chair.

I'm already in a vegetative state on the floor, I'm so stoned.

[Dave200]

I love how everyone is telling their "stories" of how "someone died from it, because my mate told me", or "I think someone in Sweden died, although they can't connect it directly"...

This is sensationalist Daily Mail nonsense, and you all know it. You are becoming the people who have probably spent half your lives complaining about...

What we know about "safe" drugs:
- Alcohol is a diuretic
- Nicotine is a strong laxative
- Alcohol acts as a depressant to the body's nervous system, and nicotine a stimulant
- You can have terrible "comedowns" from alcohol
- Alcohol interferes with sleep patterns
- Both raise blood pressure

With this in mind, how you fools can sit at your computers slating "trendy" drugs, while probably craving a pint/cigarette, almost baffles me. That is, of course, unless you're ignoring the above facts to ensure your case is as one-eyed as possible.