Venables allegedly possessed child porn
Discussion
Somewhatfoolish said:
Trust our justice system with the death penalty? No thanks!
But there's no doubt about their guilt, unless Thompson uses this to prove he was very much the secondary in it all, but if he's executed then no worries of that happening.On the whole I'm very much against capital punishment, but some are the exception that proves my rule.
Futuo said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Trust our justice system with the death penalty? No thanks!
But there's no doubt about their guilt, unless Thompson uses this to prove he was very much the secondary in it all, but if he's executed then no worries of that happening.On the whole I'm very much against capital punishment, but some are the exception that proves my rule.
BTW IIRC It was Thomson who was the ring leader and most obviously evil of the two, Venables was just f
ked up.Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Tuesday 22 June 22:06
Somewhatfoolish said:
Trust our justice system with the death penalty? No thanks!
Apt username again, dude.Do you realise that they regularly hand out life sentences? You cannot give someone their time back either. The system needs to be trustworthy. If it isn't, we need to change it. If it is, then there's no reason to disallow any punishment.
grumbledoak said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Trust our justice system with the death penalty? No thanks!
Apt username again, dude.Do you realise that they regularly hand out life sentences? You cannot give someone their time back either. The system needs to be trustworthy. If it isn't, we need to change it. If it is, then there's no reason to disallow any punishment.
Jasandjules said:
Futuo said:
Yep well aware of that, hence why it should be tried with Veneables then Blair / Brown - the last two have cause far more suffering and blood shed than two broken scousers could ever do.
Quite true. Hundreds of innocents have died thanks to those two.Ok, you win, let's hang the lot of them!
Somewhatfoolish said:
There are very few whole life sentences served in this country, and people can be compensated. The death penalty is irreversible.
Rubbish. Money cannot really compensate someone for a life ruined by a false conviction, especially a nasty one. You seem to have decided that salving your own conscience makes it ok. It doesn't.The idea that we should tolerate a justice system that punishes the wrong people just because they aren't killed is both sick and risible.
grumbledoak said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
There are very few whole life sentences served in this country, and people can be compensated. The death penalty is irreversible.
Rubbish. Money cannot really compensate someone for a life ruined by a false conviction, especially a nasty one. You seem to have decided that salving your own conscience makes it ok. It doesn't.The idea that we should tolerate a justice system that punishes the wrong people just because they aren't killed is both sick and risible.
bonsai said:
Jasandjules said:
Futuo said:
Yep well aware of that, hence why it should be tried with Veneables then Blair / Brown - the last two have cause far more suffering and blood shed than two broken scousers could ever do.
Quite true. Hundreds of innocents have died thanks to those two.Ok, you win, let's hang the lot of them!
PeteG said:
otolith said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Irrelevant. You can't have two standards of criminal proof. Would be a horrible solution.
And in any case, what standard is there better than beyond reasonable doubt?otolith said:
PeteG said:
otolith said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Irrelevant. You can't have two standards of criminal proof. Would be a horrible solution.
And in any case, what standard is there better than beyond reasonable doubt?
Other John Venables threads
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"One of the killers of toddler James Bulger has been jailed for two years after pleading guilty to charges of downloading and distributing indecent images of children.
Jon Venables, 27, appeared by video-link at the Old Bailey.
He and Robert Thompson were just 10 when they abducted and murdered two-year-old James in Bootle, Merseyside.
Both were released in 2001 with new identities, but Venables was recalled to prison in February.
Venables plead guilty to three offences under the 1978 Protection of Children Act.
The first involved downloading 57 indecent pictures of children on to his computer between February 2009 and February 2010.
The second involved distributing three indecent photographs of children in February 2010, while a third involved distributing 42 images in February 2008."
BBC
Fingers crossed he comes to harm
here
and here
"One of the killers of toddler James Bulger has been jailed for two years after pleading guilty to charges of downloading and distributing indecent images of children.
Jon Venables, 27, appeared by video-link at the Old Bailey.
He and Robert Thompson were just 10 when they abducted and murdered two-year-old James in Bootle, Merseyside.
Both were released in 2001 with new identities, but Venables was recalled to prison in February.
Venables plead guilty to three offences under the 1978 Protection of Children Act.
The first involved downloading 57 indecent pictures of children on to his computer between February 2009 and February 2010.
The second involved distributing three indecent photographs of children in February 2010, while a third involved distributing 42 images in February 2008."
BBC
Fingers crossed he comes to harm
He should be hung, drawn and quartered .... and that is just for starters. When my eldest was 2 years old this creature and his bum chum were making the headlines and now my youngest is 2 and I have to hear about this pile of excrement again, why was he ever allowed out and if released why hide his identity and protect the idiot ... sorry I apologise to all idiots that was uncalled for by me lumping with with this thing
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