Venables allegedly possessed child porn

[fluffnik]

Puggit said:

DocJock said:

Err, to decide if he actually did breach the terms of his licence?

He's guilty of the horrific murder of a toddler, more than enough reason to lock him away regardless of any terms of licences.

As a 10 year old child, well below the age of criminal responsibility...

[grumbledoak]

fluffnik said:

As a 10 year old child, well below the age of criminal responsibility...

Guess again (10 in England, Wales and Northern. Ireland, and 8 in Scotland).

ETA - from http://www.parliament.uk/commons/lib/research/brie...

Edited by grumbledoak on Sunday 7th March 00:13

[Rollin]

fluffnik said:

Puggit said:

DocJock said:

Err, to decide if he actually did breach the terms of his licence?

He's guilty of the horrific murder of a toddler, more than enough reason to lock him away regardless of any terms of licences.

As a 10 year old child, well below the age of criminal responsibility...

Yeah. They should have just let the poor dear go eh? What fking planet do you live on?

[Puggit]

Child porn - say goodbye to freedom!

[turbobloke]

The BBC article says Man of Straw fears undermining the integrity of the criminal justice process.

A
Bit
Late
Jack

[thinfourth2]

Puggit said:

Child porn - say goodbye to freedom!

Or he has pissed off someone and they have dropped the P-bomb on him and it has set the alarms off.

[fluffnik]

Rollin said:

fluffnik said:

As a 10 year old child, well below the age of criminal responsibility...

Yeah. They should have just let the poor dear go eh?

No, but I don't hold with getting vengeful on children either...

Rollin said:

What fking planet do you live on?

Earth. You?

[Parrot of Doom]

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

So, after jumping through those hoops, he reaches adulthood and, as it turns out, this chap continues to be a blight on society.

The above post is a prime example of the ability of newspapers to convince people that they're not just making up any old bks to make a profit.

Unless he hasn't been taken back to jail for breaching the terms of his parole, I'm not sure I understand your point.

No, you clearly don't. People accused of a crime are not a "blight on society".

Oh I see. Well, technically, you're right of course, so I'm happy to concede and let you nurse your pedantry for a few weeks until the accusation becomes a conviction.

...and there you go again.

[davidspooner]

V8mate said:

loltolhurst said:

10 Pence Short said:

Athlon said:

Prison should prison, hard labour and lock down for the worst offenders and bring back the death penalty for absolute, proven to be guilty sex and murder crimes.

Are you trying to say the current system does not consider those it jails to be absolute, proven to be guilty offenders?

No system is infallible.

so he would put to death the bbc presenter who is guilty of a sex crime?

should prison be just punishment or rehabilitation?

They had rehabilitation.

How many chances do we give people?

Or to turn it around, how many lives do we let these people wreck? I dislike Daily Mail type sensationalism, but in this case it's fairly obvious the kids were 'unhinged' to say the least so entirely unsurprising one has re offended and possibly ruined yet another life.

[loltolhurst]

davidspooner said:

V8mate said:

loltolhurst said:

10 Pence Short said:

Athlon said:

Prison should prison, hard labour and lock down for the worst offenders and bring back the death penalty for absolute, proven to be guilty sex and murder crimes.

Are you trying to say the current system does not consider those it jails to be absolute, proven to be guilty offenders?

No system is infallible.

so he would put to death the bbc presenter who is guilty of a sex crime?

should prison be just punishment or rehabilitation?

They had rehabilitation.

How many chances do we give people?

Or to turn it around, how many lives do we let these people wreck? I dislike Daily Mail type sensationalism, but in this case it's fairly obvious the kids were 'unhinged' to say the least so entirely unsurprising one has re offended and possibly ruined yet another life.

tell me what proof of someone elses life have they ruined do you have? yes they were obviously unhinged but if we are not willing to accept people can be rehabilitated then we might as well just shoot them at the beginning. vvv difficult case - not sure its possible to punish a 10 year old without turning them into a future blight on society.

[V8mate]

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

So, after jumping through those hoops, he reaches adulthood and, as it turns out, this chap continues to be a blight on society.

The above post is a prime example of the ability of newspapers to convince people that they're not just making up any old bks to make a profit.

Unless he hasn't been taken back to jail for breaching the terms of his parole, I'm not sure I understand your point.

No, you clearly don't. People accused of a crime are not a "blight on society".

Oh I see. Well, technically, you're right of course, so I'm happy to concede and let you nurse your pedantry for a few weeks until the accusation becomes a conviction.

...and there you go again.

You really are a tt, aren't you.

[stigmundfreud]

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

So, after jumping through those hoops, he reaches adulthood and, as it turns out, this chap continues to be a blight on society.

The above post is a prime example of the ability of newspapers to convince people that they're not just making up any old bks to make a profit.

Unless he hasn't been taken back to jail for breaching the terms of his parole, I'm not sure I understand your point.

No, you clearly don't. People accused of a crime are not a "blight on society".

Oh I see. Well, technically, you're right of course, so I'm happy to concede and let you nurse your pedantry for a few weeks until the accusation becomes a conviction.

...and there you go again.

You really are a tt, aren't you.

This is Pistonheads, Political Correctness matters.

[Parrot of Doom]

V8mate said:

You really are a tt, aren't you.

Twats at least serve a purpose.

[stigmundfreud]

have I stumbled in on the Guybrush Threepwood school of insults and retorts?

[Nolar Dog]

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I thought it was because he had served his sentence and was deemed suitable to release on licence.

[odyssey2200]

Nolar Dog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I thought it was because he had served his sentence and was deemed suitable to release on licence.

Looks like they were wrong...again.

[TASS]

stigmundfreud said:

have I stumbled in on the Guybrush Threepwood school of insults and retorts?

There is a trend isn't there

[IforB]

Another thread that shows clearly the depth of stupidity that passes for normal on PH today.

No wonder "newspapers" like the Sun and Mail sell so many copies. The UK is obviously full of angry, moronic t*ssers.

[LJTS]

stigmundfreud said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

Parrot of Doom said:

V8mate said:

So, after jumping through those hoops, he reaches adulthood and, as it turns out, this chap continues to be a blight on society.

The above post is a prime example of the ability of newspapers to convince people that they're not just making up any old bks to make a profit.

Unless he hasn't been taken back to jail for breaching the terms of his parole, I'm not sure I understand your point.

No, you clearly don't. People accused of a crime are not a "blight on society".

Oh I see. Well, technically, you're right of course, so I'm happy to concede and let you nurse your pedantry for a few weeks until the accusation becomes a conviction.

...and there you go again.

You really are a tt, aren't you.

This is Pistonheads, Political Correctness matters.

Political Correctness matters but innocent children's lives don't

I'm sure Jamie Bulger's Mother sleeps easy every night knowing that Venables is free & living a good life

[AndrewW-G]

odyssey2200 said:

Nolar Dog said:

anonymous said:

[redacted]

I thought it was because he had served his sentence and was deemed suitable to release on licence.

Looks like they were wrong...again.

Something that has yet to be proven.

Like everybody else in the UK, he is innocent until a judge decides otherwise, something that is very pertinent in this case, given the effectively blind “reporting” currently taking place and the reputation of the organisations making the claims. No matter how disgusted we are with his actions, both as an adult and as a 10 year old child, we musnt let our feelings get in the way of a fair trial.

IF convicted, my personal view is that he should have his licence revoked and for his own sake, transferred to a prison in another country.