9/11 rescue workers claim compensation!
Discussion
parapaul said:
Don't think this has been covered, apologies if it's a repost.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8563554....
9/11 rescue workers are claiming compensation for dust-related health problems. Bill to the US gubberment is to the tune of US$657.5m, or £437m...
I'm a firm believer in compensation where it's due, but IMO this is taking the pish.
Asbestosis is a serious illness - these guys need compensation.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8563554....
9/11 rescue workers are claiming compensation for dust-related health problems. Bill to the US gubberment is to the tune of US$657.5m, or £437m...
I'm a firm believer in compensation where it's due, but IMO this is taking the pish.
$657m is peanuts to the money spent on the resulting war(s), the US government debt interest and in fact the useless parasites in government itself.
Also they should have had protective clothing/filters/respirators, and there is the highly debatable cause of the whole event (especially the collapse and disposal of WTC7) which strongly points to US involvement rather than a bearded man on a hill.
So yes - they deserve every penny, stop picking on victims with incurable chronic illness.
andrewh said:
You obviously havn't seen the film 'sikko' details the problems of the 9/11 workers many of whom were volunteers not government employees.
Not sure what you mean with the post, bottom line is, the government, local government etc must have know asbestos was a problem there, and precautions should hve been taken.Sorry if I have misread you post, I am good at that.
Lil' Joe said:
Mojocvh said:
No it is not, and they deserve every CENT!
You can't really think that can you? Honestly? Only in America...
shakotan said:
I'm in no doubt they deserve praise and reward, they do not deserve COMPENSATION!
It's not the US Government's fault the twin towers were attacked, and the jobs that they did is exactly what was required of them.
If I was a fireman, would I deserve compensation if I was burned whilst saving someone's life?
No, they did beyond what was required of them and did so for far too long with little or no shift relief. They were given bad information to their requests for what protective equipment was adequate. I do question why the Federal government is paying this instead of the NYC government.It's not the US Government's fault the twin towers were attacked, and the jobs that they did is exactly what was required of them.
If I was a fireman, would I deserve compensation if I was burned whilst saving someone's life?
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?Mclovin said:
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?Mclovin said:
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?shakotan said:
If I was a fireman, would I deserve compensation if I was burned whilst saving someone's life?
IMO yes. Most of the brave/dangerous/heroic jobs are low-paid (firemen, soldiers etc) so absolutely they should get payment/compensation (however its termed it doesnt change the fact its a payment for the consequences of an event). IIRC soldiers get compo on a sliding scale relative to the severity of their injuries, so why shouldnt similar jobs, like firemen getting injured in the course of duty?
Mclovin said:
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?Probably fecking Ninja Aliens actually
In league with the lizard people. Whose Head of HR is Bruno Toniolli by the way.
And they found lightsaber throwing stars at the scene of Princess Diana's car crash dontcha know...
Edited by captainzep on Sunday 14th March 08:25
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?http://zapatopi.net/afdb/
wibble
Settle now and allow people to have a bit of dignity and allow them to get on with their lives (and not forgetting that some of the rescue workers are already out of work through bad health), or settle later and have a legacy of destroyed families?
Look what we did to the coal workers and those who dealt with asbestos here - shattered families and massive long-term claims to provide death-bed care.
As I mentioned, the fall-out from 911 will be felt for years - both physically and mentally. I know a few people who have family and friends who have been directly affected by this. One chap I know has an extended family member who has deteriorated massively in the last few years. Seems he has had his life shortened by 15-20 years and is going to be lucky to last beyond 50! Ambulance paramedic who saw some pretty serious stuff, but it was the dust that got him. Currently out of work and its unlikely he will work again.
Or do we throw these people away? Just doing their job and that's life eh? Don't forget that I would be extremely surprised if your life insurance paid out by the way - 'terrorism' is an extremely common exclusion clause so you get nothing from there.
Oh, and in the US, cities such as New York actually put aside a lot of money to cover claims like this. I doubt they put that much away for something like this, but there would have been a fund in the first place. The reason why it got legal was to 'test' it in court and for the amounts to be agreed and set.
Policing the compensation claim - now that's the issue that needs to be dealt with. Making sure the money goes to those who deserve it will be the next crime waiting to happen! Lets not forget that there was massive fraud from the families of those who were killed....
Look what we did to the coal workers and those who dealt with asbestos here - shattered families and massive long-term claims to provide death-bed care.
As I mentioned, the fall-out from 911 will be felt for years - both physically and mentally. I know a few people who have family and friends who have been directly affected by this. One chap I know has an extended family member who has deteriorated massively in the last few years. Seems he has had his life shortened by 15-20 years and is going to be lucky to last beyond 50! Ambulance paramedic who saw some pretty serious stuff, but it was the dust that got him. Currently out of work and its unlikely he will work again.
Or do we throw these people away? Just doing their job and that's life eh? Don't forget that I would be extremely surprised if your life insurance paid out by the way - 'terrorism' is an extremely common exclusion clause so you get nothing from there.
Oh, and in the US, cities such as New York actually put aside a lot of money to cover claims like this. I doubt they put that much away for something like this, but there would have been a fund in the first place. The reason why it got legal was to 'test' it in court and for the amounts to be agreed and set.
Policing the compensation claim - now that's the issue that needs to be dealt with. Making sure the money goes to those who deserve it will be the next crime waiting to happen! Lets not forget that there was massive fraud from the families of those who were killed....
Mclovin said:
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?jshell said:
Mclovin said:
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?Vipers said:
I am surprised there was Asbestos it the dust, banned surely, or was it not when they were built.
Anyway they are entitled to compensation, same as you would be if you inhaled asbestos at work.
towers wer built from 1965 onwardsAnyway they are entitled to compensation, same as you would be if you inhaled asbestos at work.
asbestos wasn't banned in alot of the countries until the '80's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos
Asbestos is "safe" until you disturb it
"Over 1000 tons of asbestos is thought to have been released into the air during the destruction of the Twin Towers "
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Mclovin said:
the terrorists used some pretty hardcore explosives to demolish those buildings, not surprised their asking for shut up compo money.....
What are you implying now?
lestag said:
Vipers said:
I am surprised there was Asbestos it the dust, banned surely, or was it not when they were built.
Anyway they are entitled to compensation, same as you would be if you inhaled asbestos at work.
towers wer built from 1965 onwardsAnyway they are entitled to compensation, same as you would be if you inhaled asbestos at work.
asbestos wasn't banned in alot of the countries until the '80's
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asbestos
Asbestos is "safe" until you disturb it
"Over 1000 tons of asbestos is thought to have been released into the air during the destruction of the Twin Towers "
andrewh said:
You obviously havn't seen the film 'sikko' details the problems of the 9/11 workers many of whom were volunteers not government employees.
+1I have been sickened to learn how the US government has treated the rescue workers since 9/11.
Many of these were just volunteers off the street who have since developed horrific conditions due to being exposed to the dust and the mental strain it has caused .
Its not like in the UK where they would get free medical support and cheap prescriptions to make them better / make life more bearable. Due to the private medical system in the US many people (even ones with insurance) are left with crippling medical bills. Many of these people affected have been unable to work due to their conditions, in the US no work equals no medical insurance, which someone who in unemployed would be unlikely to afford.
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