My God - people are stupid.
Discussion
Tsippy said:
sjn2004 said:
Another one of their gems is that people convicted of "minor" crimes eg assault/burglary with sentences less than 6 months will not have to go to prison. Total madness.
I bet motorists refusing to plead guilty to a speeding accusation will not be covered under that.LikesBikes said:
KANEIT said:
Being 'less bad' than the others is no reason to vote for them.
I think it might be. The least bad, by definition, would be the best surely?The best of a bad bunch perhaps, but far from being worth endorsing with a vote. Again picking one of three s
tty options will only result in one of three stty outcomes.Somewhatfoolish said:
Tsippy said:
sjn2004 said:
Another one of their gems is that people convicted of "minor" crimes eg assault/burglary with sentences less than 6 months will not have to go to prison. Total madness.
I bet motorists refusing to plead guilty to a speeding accusation will not be covered under that.
KANEIT said:
LikesBikes said:
KANEIT said:
Being 'less bad' than the others is no reason to vote for them.
I think it might be. The least bad, by definition, would be the best surely?The best of a bad bunch perhaps, but far from being worth endorsing with a vote. Again picking one of three s
tty options will only result in one of three stty outcomes.While I see your point, regarding the least bad I didn't realise you were only giving us the option of the three main parties (well, two
)I dont see how voting for the hate marmite party this year will ever see them in power in my lifetime or my kids lifetime although granted their following may slowly grow. We have to look for the best option that actually has a chanceof getting in here and now. No matter how much I want Marmite banned it won't do me any good in the year 2256 when the hate party gets its first real chance of winning an election. I know thats a s
tty deal for the minor parties but thats the way it is.Tsippy said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Tsippy said:
sjn2004 said:
Another one of their gems is that people convicted of "minor" crimes eg assault/burglary with sentences less than 6 months will not have to go to prison. Total madness.
I bet motorists refusing to plead guilty to a speeding accusation will not be covered under that.t will start being kicked out of me, so then I will have to shoot them with my illegal gun*. Then there will be a gun battle, and no matter how many police marksmen I manage to take out (presumably none) I am going to end up dead. All the consequences of a parking ticket.Now here's something you may not expect: I actually agree with that logic. But I am an extreme Libertarian who will go as far as believing one should be allowed ones private army if one wants it...
*Note: I don't really have a gun, illegal or otherwise. And I don't think I owe anyone parking fines either.
Edited by Somewhatfoolish on Saturday 17th April 01:15
LikesBikes said:
I dont see how voting for the hate marmite party this year will ever see them in power in my lifetime or my kids lifetime although granted their following may slowly grow. We have to look for the best option that actually has a chanceof getting in here and now. No matter how much I want Marmite banned it won't do me any good in the year 2256 when the hate party gets its first real chance of winning an election. I know thats a stty deal for the minor parties but thats the way it is.
It's a shame more people didn't think like you before the Nazis rose to power in Germany, because that would have stopped change in that country that resulted in a world war. And that's not a compliment on your logic even though it sounds like one!tty deal for the minor parties but thats the way it is.KANEIT said:
LikesBikes said:
I dont see how voting for the hate marmite party this year will ever see them in power in my lifetime or my kids lifetime although granted their following may slowly grow. We have to look for the best option that actually has a chanceof getting in here and now. No matter how much I want Marmite banned it won't do me any good in the year 2256 when the hate party gets its first real chance of winning an election. I know thats a stty deal for the minor parties but thats the way it is.
It's a shame more people didn't think like you before the Nazis rose to power in Germany, because that would have stopped change in that country that resulted in a world war. And that's not a compliment on your logic even though it sounds like one!tty deal for the minor parties but thats the way it is.Besides I don't see how Germans not liking Marmite would've made a difference unless Hitler pledged to ban it
Seriously though, whilst our individual logic differs it doesn't mean only one is right. I tend to worry more about what happens to me and my family now rather than 'for the good of the future generations' by which time me and my family from this lifetime will be long gone and so will any memory of us.
Also I'm not convinced that any of these Politicians from minor parties are any better that those of the big three. Look at Robert Kilroy-Silk, he was a proper cock-end. Every one of them from whichever party has adeep seated desire to be a leader of the ordinary people at some level or another and as such we need to be wary of them. Which brings us back to the least bad one...
Edited by LikesBikes on Saturday 17th April 02:26
Somewhatfoolish said:
Tsippy said:
sjn2004 said:
Another one of their gems is that people convicted of "minor" crimes eg assault/burglary with sentences less than 6 months will not have to go to prison. Total madness.
I bet motorists refusing to plead guilty to a speeding accusation will not be covered under that.LikesBikes said:
Also I'm not convinced that any of these Politicians from minor parties are any better that those of the big three. Look at Robert Kilroy-Silk, he was a proper cock-end. Every one of them from whichever party has adeep seated desire to be a leader of the ordinary people at some level or another and as such we need to be wary of them. Which brings us back to the least bad one...
Edited by LikesBikes on Saturday 17th April 02:26
kwits, means they'll never get anywhere.rfisher said:
One smiling fool looking into the camera and everyone is suddenly planning to vote for unilateral nuclear disarmament (and the rest of the Lib Dem nonsense).
I hope this happens because I feel that Labour have fked the UK so badly, that it would actually be painful to see a Tory administration trying to put things right again.
Every move they would make would be bleeted to death by hand wringing lefty cocks.
Face it - it's time to leave.
Some things can't be mended.
Leave them all to drown in their own st.
I agree.I hope this happens because I feel that Labour have f
ked the UK so badly, that it would actually be painful to see a Tory administration trying to put things right again.Every move they would make would be bleeted to death by hand wringing lefty cocks.
Face it - it's time to leave.
Some things can't be mended.
Leave them all to drown in their own s
t.rfisher said:
No need to shout.
My point is that people don't seem to be capable of assessing the policies, but choose who to vote for based on their appearance and ability to perform rehearsed set-pieces to camera.
We're in deep st.
We need poeple to think hard about how to get out of it.
I don't think the Lib Dems or Labour are the answer.
I listen to both Lab/Cons and I hear nothing from either that makes me actively want to vote for them, I certainly don't think the Tories are offering the promised land of 'Al Murray' policies that many people on here seem to think they are.My point is that people don't seem to be capable of assessing the policies, but choose who to vote for based on their appearance and ability to perform rehearsed set-pieces to camera.
We're in deep s
t.We need poeple to think hard about how to get out of it.
I don't think the Lib Dems or Labour are the answer.
However, with the Lib Dems I hear plenty of things I don't like but also plenty that I do. As a 'default' Tory voter it is proving to be a rather strange place to be right now.
At the end of the day it boils down to 2 choices;
1. You are happy to be told what to do by the Government and feel that you have 'nothing to hide' so it's OK for the Government to know what it wants about you and your family. You don't expect to have to take care of yourself or your family - that's the Governments job.
2. You are an individual. You take personal responsibility for your actions. You look after your family. If you need help you expect the Government to provide it as you contribute to society and your Country.
If your general attitude is close to 1 vote Labour or Lib Dem.
If 2, vote Tory.
Yes CMD looks wet at the moment. Maybe he is. But he's intelligent and honest. His motives are genuine.
Winky is insane and dictatorial. He has no interest in this Country.
Legover is an idealist who shares unrealistic policy ideas that would damage our economy and security. I think he reckons he is a white Obama (although Obama isn't actually black, but let's not allow facts to get in the way of political exploitation).
1. You are happy to be told what to do by the Government and feel that you have 'nothing to hide' so it's OK for the Government to know what it wants about you and your family. You don't expect to have to take care of yourself or your family - that's the Governments job.
2. You are an individual. You take personal responsibility for your actions. You look after your family. If you need help you expect the Government to provide it as you contribute to society and your Country.
If your general attitude is close to 1 vote Labour or Lib Dem.
If 2, vote Tory.
Yes CMD looks wet at the moment. Maybe he is. But he's intelligent and honest. His motives are genuine.
Winky is insane and dictatorial. He has no interest in this Country.
Legover is an idealist who shares unrealistic policy ideas that would damage our economy and security. I think he reckons he is a white Obama (although Obama isn't actually black, but let's not allow facts to get in the way of political exploitation).
Nuclear disarmament, fine, I don't have a problem with that.
Trust me, I'm a true Tory boy, but Cameron simply doesn't cut it for me. He should be stting out little Gordon Brown shaped turds every morning, but somehow he can't put that one-eyed, hapless, fkwit in his place, even after 13 years of disastrous Labour Government. This should be the most one sided election in living memory, but Dave seems to be fking it up.
sjn2004 said:
Another one of their gems is that people convicted of "minor" crimes eg assault/burglary with sentences less than 6 months will not have to go to prison. Total madness.
CMD said we should all "Hug a hoodie". Is he now saying we should lock them all up? Do you have a link to that change in policy?Trust me, I'm a true Tory boy, but Cameron simply doesn't cut it for me. He should be s
tting out little Gordon Brown shaped turds every morning, but somehow he can't put that one-eyed, hapless, fkwit in his place, even after 13 years of disastrous Labour Government. This should be the most one sided election in living memory, but Dave seems to be fking it up.rfisher said:
One smiling fool looking into the camera and everyone is suddenly planning to vote for unilateral nuclear disarmament (and the rest of the Lib Dem nonsense).
I hope this happens because I feel that Labour have fked the UK so badly, that it would actually be painful to see a Tory administration trying to put things right again.
Every move they would make would be bleeted to death by hand wringing lefty cocks.
Face it - it's time to leave.
Some things can't be mended.
Leave them all to drown in their own st.
You'll enjoy this one then, a facebook group trying to get them electedI hope this happens because I feel that Labour have f
ked the UK so badly, that it would actually be painful to see a Tory administration trying to put things right again.Every move they would make would be bleeted to death by hand wringing lefty cocks.
Face it - it's time to leave.
Some things can't be mended.
Leave them all to drown in their own s
t.http://www.facebook.com/home.php?ref=home#!/group....
rfisher said:
One smiling fool looking into the camera and everyone is suddenly planning to vote for unilateral nuclear disarmament (and the rest of the Lib Dem nonsense).
I hope this happens because I feel that Labour have fked the UK so badly, that it would actually be painful to see a Tory administration trying to put things right again.
Every move they would make would be bleeted to death by hand wringing lefty cocks.
Face it - it's time to leave.
Some things can't be mended.
Leave them all to drown in their own st.
It's frightening isn't it. They'll vote for an image and nothing else. Peasants, simply peasants.I hope this happens because I feel that Labour have f
ked the UK so badly, that it would actually be painful to see a Tory administration trying to put things right again.Every move they would make would be bleeted to death by hand wringing lefty cocks.
Face it - it's time to leave.
Some things can't be mended.
Leave them all to drown in their own s
t.LikesBikes said:
Also I'm not convinced that any of these Politicians from minor parties are any better that those of the big three. Look at Robert Kilroy-Silk, he was a proper cock-end.
And then there's the Greens. Utter loons every last one.The BNP - racists.
UKIP - a single policy pressure group masquerading as a party - utterly unelectable.
...and...
variations on a theme
...and...
Monster Raving Loony Party - at least these guys are cool, you could try and save the poor guy's deposit for trying to give us all a laugh...
I was utterly delighted that my 20 year old niece (NO PICS) is actually listening to the debates and reading about politics in an attempt to work out how to use her first vote. She might well negate my vote but she's thinking at least. In the end she might write "none of the above" on the paper but, hey, it's a good sign.
For my part I know the wrong lizard might get in - but at least I'll bloody the nose of the wrongest lizard.
Mojocvh said:
Somewhatfoolish said:
Tsippy said:
sjn2004 said:
Another one of their gems is that people convicted of "minor" crimes eg assault/burglary with sentences less than 6 months will not have to go to prison. Total madness.
I bet motorists refusing to plead guilty to a speeding accusation will not be covered under that.Gassing Station | News, Politics & Economics | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff