Propaganda on the BBC

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Simbu

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1,792 posts

175 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Now, i know this is a frequently discussed topic, but rarely is it so blatent.

We have Radio 1 on at work (sigh) and i just had to endure a minute or Labour schpiel called the "Minute Manifesto". I didn't hear much in the way of actual policies, but i did hear the word 'fair' more times than i could count (in this context i think fair means 'punish success').

Presumably i'll be hearing a similar one from the Conservatives and probably Lib Dems at some point in the near future, but since the BBC is mandated to be politically neutral, why are they playing these at all? I'm all for encouraging voting and awareness but a minute's worth of crap spun so much it couldn't stand straight is not the right approach IMO. That's called free advertising.

Also, i'd wager we won't be hearing one from smaller parties (UKIP, Greens, SNP, BNP, Plaid Cymru) and i'll also bet there will be varience in listener numbers when they are played for different parties.

Am i wrong to be unimpressed by this? Is it a good idea? Please post your views.

maxrider

2,481 posts

237 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I heard this too.
I threw the radio across the room.

Dare2Fail

3,808 posts

209 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Simbu said:
Am i wrong to be unimpressed by this? Is it a good idea? Please post your views.
I've got to say 'yes' to both your questions.

Neutrality would be achieved by either providing 1 minute manifestos for all parties (which I suspect the will be doing, at least for the 3 big parties), or by doing none at all. We are in a situation in this country where voter apathy and lack of interest about politics among the youth is huge. If they took the 'broadcast nothing' approach then it wouldn't encourage anyone to think a little bit harder about voting and politics. At least by adopting this approach they may get some people to go and vote who may have previously not bothered.

Everyone knows that these broadcasts are spun to within an inch of their life. The benefit, imho, is that it can make people think about things a little more.

cs02rm0

13,812 posts

192 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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While I agree that voter apathy is an issue, I disagree that this is how it should be addressed.

Esseesse

8,969 posts

209 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Dare2Fail said:
Everyone knows that these broadcasts are spun to within an inch of their life.
Disagree. Labour voters in my office (Medical related people, I'm the odd one out) seem to think everything that come out of Gordon's mouth is 100% factually correct.

JCB123

2,265 posts

197 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Esseesse said:
Dare2Fail said:
Everyone knows that these broadcasts are spun to within an inch of their life.
Disagree. Labour voters in my office (Medical related people, I'm the odd one out) seem to think everything that come out of Gordon's mouth is 100% factually correct.
eeklaughrolleyes

Yeast Lord

329 posts

170 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I've had enough. I'm ripping my tv licence up and never paying it again.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Propaganda on the Beeb for all parties? The big three will all get their airtime, and in the different kingdoms no doubt the local Nationalist parties will get theirs.

Esseesse said:
Dare2Fail said:
Everyone knows that these broadcasts are spun to within an inch of their life.
Disagree. Labour voters in my office (Medical related people, I'm the odd one out) seem to think everything that come out of Gordon's mouth is 100% factually correct.
Do you engage in political debate with them? I have plenty of debates with my colleagues, they can be good fun.biggrin

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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It's a state run broadcaster, of course it's biased. Even when there's no overt party political bias the spin towards bigger government is as inevitable as fat women with flowery skirts working in the public sector.

XJR40

5,983 posts

214 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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AJS- said:
...inevitable as fat women with flowery skirts working in the public sector.
hehe So true.

Willie Dee

1,559 posts

209 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Yeast Lord said:
I've had enough. I'm ripping my tv licence up and never paying it again.
you paid it in the first place? rolleyes

10 Pence Short

32,880 posts

218 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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They're even making their political correspondants look like Brown now. It's getting ridiculous.

Gary O'Donoghue


isee

3,713 posts

184 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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I still remember when they referred to the group responsible for moscow metro bombings "separatists". And when the main Chechen terrorist was killed they called him a rebel or resistance leader or something along those lines...
I guess one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter is still as true as ever.

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Monday 19th April 2010
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Willie Dee said:
Yeast Lord said:
I've had enough. I'm ripping my tv licence up and never paying it again.
you paid it in the first place? rolleyes
Yeah, because if you don't, the TV Set detector spaceship will identify you from orbit!



That was on the BBC too, so it must be true.


Incidentally, someone once told me that if you demand to see a warrant when a licence inspector calls, they can not enter the house without one, and will nearly never follow them up as warrants are time consuming and likely to be refused without some reason to believe you have a TV? True?

I guess the quantum ionising megawhirl technology in their "detector" vans is so top secret that it's not submissible as grounds for suspicion?

Simbu

Original Poster:

1,792 posts

175 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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Well now, i may stand corrected! I just heard a minute manifesto from the BNP!

tonyvid

9,869 posts

244 months

Wednesday 21st April 2010
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10 Pence Short said:
They're even making their political correspondants look like Brown now. It's getting ridiculous.

Gary O'Donoghue

At least he won't mind you posting his pic wink