Lib Dems - whats it all about
Discussion
Having read all of the scare stories on here about Gordons revenge and him landing another stint for Labour. Whats the deal with Lib Dems, are they actually the same as labour but just another leader? or are they labout with a more gribley/swampy twist?
With the surge in their popularity, its would be nice to know what there all about? (and I dont mean their poliices - trident etc, but what they are really about behind the scenes so to speak.....
With the surge in their popularity, its would be nice to know what there all about? (and I dont mean their poliices - trident etc, but what they are really about behind the scenes so to speak.....
A week ago I never would of thought about voting Lib dem as they just sempt like a bunch of no hopers. However the scary thing is whilst I am fairly confident that I don't agree with their policies (at least the ones I know about, which isn't a high proportion) I do think we need a change. After watching the first debate they did come accross of our best hope of a change (for the better I'm not sure but at least they'll try).
Not sure I could bring myself to vote them on the date still but they do seem to be looking good!
Not sure I could bring myself to vote them on the date still but they do seem to be looking good!
kazste said:
A week ago I never would of thought about voting Lib dem as they just sempt like a bunch of no hopers. However the scary thing is whilst I am fairly confident that I don't agree with their policies (at least the ones I know about, which isn't a high proportion) I do think we need a change. After watching the first debate they did come accross of our best hope of a change (for the better I'm not sure but at least they'll try).
Not sure I could bring myself to vote them on the date still but they do seem to be looking good!
Clegg did very well last week.Not sure I could bring myself to vote them on the date still but they do seem to be looking good!
However, their policies are awful. Do not be fooled by the confident man in the shiny suit.
Andrew[MG] said:
They are very anti-car and pro-green issues....nobody on PH would vote for them if they read their views on these subjects.
^^^^^They are also for imigration and amnesty for illegal imigrants and Very Very pro europe They want us in the Euro!
also a lot of their proposals are not costed, I have heard them asked questions and they just don;t answer
I'm reading their policies now.
Scrapping Eurofighter (!?!)
Breaking Up the Banks
Opportunities for people to invest in safe, long term assets (what 'assets' are these? what are these safe long term investments? Why aren't we all already investing in them if they're so safe?!?!)
A new 'Green Economy' that consists of us building f
king wind turbines!!
Scrapping Eurofighter (!?!)
Breaking Up the Banks
Opportunities for people to invest in safe, long term assets (what 'assets' are these? what are these safe long term investments? Why aren't we all already investing in them if they're so safe?!?!)
A new 'Green Economy' that consists of us building f
king wind turbines!!mrmr96 said:
kazste said:
A week ago I never would of thought about voting Lib dem as they just sempt like a bunch of no hopers. However the scary thing is whilst I am fairly confident that I don't agree with their policies (at least the ones I know about, which isn't a high proportion) I do think we need a change. After watching the first debate they did come accross of our best hope of a change (for the better I'm not sure but at least they'll try).
Not sure I could bring myself to vote them on the date still but they do seem to be looking good!
Clegg did very well last week.Not sure I could bring myself to vote them on the date still but they do seem to be looking good!
However, their policies are awful. Do not be fooled by the confident man in the shiny suit.
They would, in my view, be a disaster. They are even more rabidly pro-europe than labour. They think that being in the euro is a great idea, and want our immigration totally controlled by Brussels.
They also want us to unilaterally give up our defences!
I.e cancel Trident and the typhoon. And as already mentioned, they want to give an amnesty to illegal immigrants.
Just my opinion, but anyone who has actually seen their policies, and still wants to vote for them, shouldn't be allowed out by themselves!
Tim
They also want us to unilaterally give up our defences!
I.e cancel Trident and the typhoon. And as already mentioned, they want to give an amnesty to illegal immigrants.
Just my opinion, but anyone who has actually seen their policies, and still wants to vote for them, shouldn't be allowed out by themselves!
Tim
Oakey said:
Here's a good policy:
"Bring in 'stop-on-request' for night buses. you should be able to ask the driver to stop between stops so you're as close to home as possible"
Yes, that sounds workable. Make buses into Taxi-Lite. How do this fit into their Green agenda?
It's already a taxi-lite for scrotes who get free travel, and are too lazy to walk 200m to the next stop (in my experience)."Bring in 'stop-on-request' for night buses. you should be able to ask the driver to stop between stops so you're as close to home as possible"
Yes, that sounds workable. Make buses into Taxi-Lite. How do this fit into their Green agenda?
MonkeyMatt said:
Just been reading all the Manifestos, the Libdems and indeed the other parties all have some good ideas and terrible ideas! If only we could some how vote for the policies we like rather than the parties.
You mean like an actual participatory democracy?!?! Crazy talk! 
Oakey said:
Here's a good policy:
"Bring in 'stop-on-request' for night buses. you should be able to ask the driver to stop between stops so you're as close to home as possible"
Yes, that sounds workable. Make buses into Taxi-Lite. How do this fit into their Green agenda?
Night buses? Round here they all (both of them) stop at 7pm. I guess he assumes the whole country is just like London..."Bring in 'stop-on-request' for night buses. you should be able to ask the driver to stop between stops so you're as close to home as possible"
Yes, that sounds workable. Make buses into Taxi-Lite. How do this fit into their Green agenda?
eldar said:
Oakey said:
Here's a good policy:
"Bring in 'stop-on-request' for night buses. you should be able to ask the driver to stop between stops so you're as close to home as possible"
Yes, that sounds workable. Make buses into Taxi-Lite. How do this fit into their Green agenda?
Night buses? Round here they all (both of them) stop at 7pm. I guess he assumes the whole country is just like London..."Bring in 'stop-on-request' for night buses. you should be able to ask the driver to stop between stops so you're as close to home as possible"
Yes, that sounds workable. Make buses into Taxi-Lite. How do this fit into their Green agenda?
Also, whilst I too am constantly disappointed by the UK public treating this country like 'Britains got a Politician' or 'the P factor' there is some exaggerated claims about the LDs being made.
Yes, I believe they would bring the country to its knees, however:
They are not cancelling eurofighter. Only the newest version, tranch 3b as per the manifesto.
Yes, they do want more use of renewables - to produce 40% of the UKs electricity by 2020
and 100% by 2050 
but this is not solely 'wind farms' as quoted above.What is insane is they will not accept new nuclear technology as an energy source.
They also want to introduce road pricing with a view to lowering the fuel duty and abolishing VED. As with all the leftys they want to tax the successful. By the way, the £1200 car road tax was a 2006 pledge. They've now found road pricing, probably as the EU satellite system is soon to be on line if we can donate another £4 trillion to the
AIUI they don't have a hope in hell of gaining enough seats due to the fked up system we have that means Labour could come third on the popular vote but keep enough seats to have more than anyone else.
However, what the Lib Dems do appear they may be able to do, again AIUI, is nick just enough seats that neither of the main parties has a clear majority so we have a hung parliament.
It seems there are two ways of looking at this, the markets think it would be bad (not quite sure why?), from what I've seen on the news the public seem to think it might help if we didn't have such a feudal system and our politicians were forced/obligated to work together.
Personally I don't know which argument is right but it's fascinating what 90 minutes on TV can do for a man and a party as apparently until last week 66% of people didn't know who Nick Clegg was (this could be the same 66% who think drinking some Tango counts as one of your 5-a-day though).
ked up system we have that means Labour could come third on the popular vote but keep enough seats to have more than anyone else.However, what the Lib Dems do appear they may be able to do, again AIUI, is nick just enough seats that neither of the main parties has a clear majority so we have a hung parliament.
It seems there are two ways of looking at this, the markets think it would be bad (not quite sure why?), from what I've seen on the news the public seem to think it might help if we didn't have such a feudal system and our politicians were forced/obligated to work together.
Personally I don't know which argument is right but it's fascinating what 90 minutes on TV can do for a man and a party as apparently until last week 66% of people didn't know who Nick Clegg was (this could be the same 66% who think drinking some Tango counts as one of your 5-a-day though).
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