Harry to fly Apache-good idea?

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Dunk76

4,350 posts

215 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Magog said:
Dunk76 said:
I wonder if he wants the AAC as he's on the back end of some quiet unpreferential treatment in the Blues & Royals due to his old man being officially persona non grata in the barracks?

scratchchin
What makes you say this?
Think about it for a bit. wink

Magog

2,652 posts

190 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Dunk76 said:
Magog said:
Dunk76 said:
I wonder if he wants the AAC as he's on the back end of some quiet unpreferential treatment in the Blues & Royals due to his old man being officially persona non grata in the barracks?

scratchchin
What makes you say this?
Think about it for a bit. wink
When you say, 'his old man', might I have been thinking of a different person initially?

Dunk76

4,350 posts

215 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Magog said:
Dunk76 said:
Magog said:
Dunk76 said:
I wonder if he wants the AAC as he's on the back end of some quiet unpreferential treatment in the Blues & Royals due to his old man being officially persona non grata in the barracks?

scratchchin
What makes you say this?
Think about it for a bit. wink
When you say, 'his old man', might I have been thinking of a different person initially?
smile

shauniebabes

445 posts

177 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.

ninja-lewis

4,243 posts

191 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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Hedders said:
Guam said:
el stovey said:
Skywalker said:
If he has got the gig on merit for his flying skills then good on him.
It's amazing that all these royal show such great aptitude. Those flying jobs in the forces are incredibly hard to get but the all the royals seem to just have the knack for it. hehe
Yep thats why Prince Edward had such an exceptional military carreer ...........................................oh wait!! smile
What are his medals for anyway? Attendance? Cleanliness?
10 March 1977: Queen Elizabeth II Silver Jubilee Medal
1990: New Zealand Commemorative Medal
2 June 2002: Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal
7 June 2005: Commemorative Medal for the Centennial of Saskatchewan

Bear in mind the Royals have similar positions in many Commonwealth forces and thus they often receive commemorative medals from abroad, as well as the UK. In most cases, they receive them due to being part of the Royal Household rather than military links.

ellroy

7,039 posts

226 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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shauniebabes said:
160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.
What absolute bks. Last time I looked my family were a mixture of paddys, tykes and geordies. I've not noticed any ermine kicking around home, nor with the majority of my brother officers.

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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shauniebabes said:
160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.
...and 1.3 million years after Homo Erectus intelligent thought hasn't quite reached the entire population.

andy_s

19,405 posts

260 months

Sunday 9th May 2010
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elster said:
shauniebabes said:
160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.
...and 1.3 million years after Homo Erectus intelligent thought hasn't quite reached the entire population.
Ha...I had a good roll around the lion skin rug after that one biggrin

Dixie68

3,091 posts

188 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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ninja-lewis said:
Hedders said:
Guam said:
el stovey said:
Skywalker said:
If he has got the gig on merit for his flying skills then good on him.
It's amazing that all these royal show such great aptitude. Those flying jobs in the forces are incredibly hard to get but the all the royals seem to just have the knack for it. hehe
Yep thats why Prince Edward had such an exceptional military carreer ...........................................oh wait!! smile
What are his medals for anyway? Attendance? Cleanliness?
10 March 1977: Queen Elizabeth II Silver Jubilee Medal
1990: New Zealand Commemorative Medal
2 June 2002: Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal
7 June 2005: Commemorative Medal for the Centennial of Saskatchewan

Bear in mind the Royals have similar positions in many Commonwealth forces and thus they often receive commemorative medals from abroad, as well as the UK. In most cases, they receive them due to being part of the Royal Household rather than military links.
Of course if he wore all the decorations he was entitled to he wouldn't be able to stand. Including his 1982 South Atlantic Medal with rosette.

Dixie68

3,091 posts

188 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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shauniebabes said:
160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.
My last CO was the son of a Yorkshire milkman, the one before was from a family of bricklayers from Streatham, and the one before that was from that well-known route to great wealth... a newsagents son.
In fact I'm not sure I ever met anyone in the military who was an aristocrat.

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Dixie68 said:
shauniebabes said:
160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.
My last CO was the son of a Yorkshire milkman, the one before was from a family of bricklayers from Streatham, and the one before that was from that well-known route to great wealth... a newsagents son.
In fact I'm not sure I ever met anyone in the military who was an aristocrat.
Unless you count the horsey lot who seem to spend half their lives at dinners.

Castrol Craig

18,073 posts

207 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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elster said:
Dixie68 said:
shauniebabes said:
160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.
My last CO was the son of a Yorkshire milkman, the one before was from a family of bricklayers from Streatham, and the one before that was from that well-known route to great wealth... a newsagents son.
In fact I'm not sure I ever met anyone in the military who was an aristocrat.
Unless you count the horsey lot who seem to spend half their lives at dinners.
come to think of it, i only ever met one full on blue blood rupert in 6 years in the Army, most of my officers came up through the ranks.

Carfiend

3,186 posts

210 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Magog said:
Dunk76 said:
Magog said:
Dunk76 said:
I wonder if he wants the AAC as he's on the back end of some quiet unpreferential treatment in the Blues & Royals due to his old man being officially persona non grata in the barracks?

scratchchin
What makes you say this?
Think about it for a bit. wink
When you say, 'his old man', might I have been thinking of a different person initially?
Lets just say that is wasn't just Will Carling who enjoyed playing Pokeaprincess.

Galsia

2,170 posts

191 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Lets be honest here he is not the important son of Charles is he? Harry will never be king...

youngsyr

14,742 posts

193 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Hedders said:
Guam said:
el stovey said:
Skywalker said:
If he has got the gig on merit for his flying skills then good on him.
It's amazing that all these royal show such great aptitude. Those flying jobs in the forces are incredibly hard to get but the all the royals seem to just have the knack for it. hehe
Yep thats why Prince Edward had such an exceptional military carreer ...........................................oh wait!! smile
What are his medals for anyway? Attendance? Cleanliness?


Wikipedia the unfaltering font of universal knowledge said:
Decorations
10 March 1977: Queen Elizabeth II Silver Jubilee Medal
1990: New Zealand Commemorative Medal
2 June 2002: Queen Elizabeth II Golden Jubilee Medal
7 June 2005: Commemorative Medal for the Centennial of Saskatchewan
So, the equivalent of Arnold Rimmer's BSc and SSc.

Lost soul

8,712 posts

183 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Hedders said:
What are his medals for anyway? Attendance? Cleanliness?


Edward is a worthless piece of st anyway

Mikeyboy

5,018 posts

236 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Dixie68 said:
shauniebabes said:
160 years after the Crimean war we are still selecting officers purely because they are members of the aristocracy.
My last CO was the son of a Yorkshire milkman, the one before was from a family of bricklayers from Streatham, and the one before that was from that well-known route to great wealth... a newsagents son.
In fact I'm not sure I ever met anyone in the military who was an aristocrat.
I would guess that you weren't a guardsman then?
Not saying thats full of them but it has traditionally been a finishing school for some of the upper classes.

Mr Dave

3,233 posts

196 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Lets be honest here, Prince Harry has had a good upbringing, he is intelligent and has had a good education, he talks well and I am sure he can present himself well. It seems he is not a lazy slacker, is enthusiastic and is very keen on the forces. With playing plenty of sports and his previous army stuff he is in good shape I would imagine and from what we know he is healthy and has good eyesight. Most serving soldiers that have encountered him have thought he is a very decent chap.

What reason is there for him NOT to be accepted into flying training? Most people get through the training by pure old fashioned graft and if he is willing to put the work in then why not?

I reckon he had more hurdles to get to be allowed to do this than most.


Greg_D

6,542 posts

247 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Mr Dave said:
Lets be honest here, Prince Harry has had a good upbringing, he is intelligent and has had a good education, he talks well and I am sure he can present himself well. It seems he is not a lazy slacker, is enthusiastic and is very keen on the forces. With playing plenty of sports and his previous army stuff he is in good shape I would imagine and from what we know he is healthy and has good eyesight. Most serving soldiers that have encountered him have thought he is a very decent chap.

What reason is there for him NOT to be accepted into flying training? Most people get through the training by pure old fashioned graft and if he is willing to put the work in then why not?

I reckon he had more hurdles to get to be allowed to do this than most.
exactly,

some people just have it in for royalty, regardless.

usually envy ridden proles that have never ventured out of their own parish nor achieved anything remotely worthy in their entire bile soaked, bitter existence.

Greg

andy_s

19,405 posts

260 months

Monday 10th May 2010
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Isn't Harry joining some Army amputees to the North Pole next year? He certainly seems up for the cup, not the feckless slacker I would be in his shoes.