'The people have voted for a hung parliament'

[pioneer]

The initial message was deleted from this topic on 01 June 2013 at 20:59

[Jasandjules]

It's just more moronic sound bites which makes them feel better. The RESULT of the vote is a hung Parliament, but if there was a hung parliament option to vote for I suspect more people would put their cross in it, if it had a literal meaning.....

[Jonny_]

Excellent. Glad I'm not the only one who's sick as f*** of hearing this.

Don't know about you, but on the ballot paper I got the options were Lib, Lab, Con, plus a few oddballs like BNP. No option or "hung parliament", nor for "second-placed discredited incompetent dishonest clown troupe plus third-placed students' favourite novelty lefty pillocks to run the f**king country".

The only way I would have voted for a hung parliament is if the word "hung" meant gallows, rope and a 30-second clip of shaky camera phone footage doing the rounds afterwards.

[Ed Fender]

It it an indication of how these fkers think of us, the public, as a large, featureless, bovine mass that exists purely to be conned, lied to and milked by them.

[Northern Munkee]

I can't believe the Liberals believe negotiating with the Labour, who are only offering AV because it will suit them, because it is closer to PR than FPTP. Now they've opened negotiations with Labour, the Tories are now offering a referendum on AV, a complete about face by the Tories! wes the lot of them. Not a single statesman amongst them! Even John Reid (ex Labour of course thinks Labour offering the Liberals AV a mistake). No one voting Labour or Tory voted for PR in the election, so by the progressive majority bks, the majority didn't vote for AV, PR, or voting system reform. And before someone says it was in the Labour party manifesto, they had 13years of it on the back burner so they were not serious.

I can see this rattling on for weeks....

If this is the future, I actually liked the sound of STV when I heard it this morning.

Call another election, let's have another go!

[Pesty]

Northern Munkee said:

I can't believe the Liberals believe negotiating with the Labour, who are only offering AV because it will suit them,!

I can

[tamore]

Northern Munkee said:

I can't believe the Liberals believe negotiating with the Labour, who are only offering AV because it will suit them, because it is closer to PR than FPTP. Now they've opened negotiations with Labour, the Tories are now offering a referendum on AV, a complete about face by the Tories! wes the lot of them. Not a single statesman amongst them! Even John Reid (ex Labour of course thinks Labour offering the Liberals AV a mistake). No one voting Labour or Tory voted for PR in the election, so by the progressive majority bks, the majority didn't vote for AV, PR, or voting system reform. And before someone says it was in the Labour party manifesto, they had 13years of it on the back burner so they were not serious.

I can see this rattling on for weeks....

If this is the future, I actually liked the sound of STV when I heard it this morning.

Call another election, let's have another go!

i was thinking about this and came to the conclusion that the tories and newlayba will both offer a referendum on the basis that supporters of both parties will vote no. reason is that both sides have done ok from it in the past, and the only people who will want reform are supporters of lib dems and supportes of UKIP/ BNP/ Greens etc

[SmoothRB]

I don't want PR where you don't have a direct constituency MP.

[Puggit]

SmoothRB said:

I don't want PR where you don't have a direct constituency MP.

+ a lot

[sjn2004]

Seems to be the Labour spin doctors who are saying we voted for a hung parliament. I guess its better than them admitting they lost.

[Pooh]

It is total garbage, especially when you consider that the Tories got a larger share of the vote and a bigger lead over the other parties than Labour did at the last election.

[Yertis]

The boundary changes Labour made in their favour will have contributed to the hung Parliament, and since Labour were voted in, it's what "we" voted for.

[SmoothRB]

Puggit said:

SmoothRB said:

I don't want PR where you don't have a direct constituency MP.

+ a lot

It will just become like the US with presidential style national politics w/ everyone ultimately alienated from tangible politics that actually effect their lives...i.e local issues.

Alienation is bad...it leads to fked up politics of demagogues and messiahs.

[plasticpig]

SmoothRB said:

I don't want PR where you don't have a direct constituency MP.

We could still have that if a single transferable vote system is used.

[SmoothRB]

plasticpig said:

SmoothRB said:

I don't want PR where you don't have a direct constituency MP.

We could still have that if a single transferable vote system is used.

Sure but it's not really PR as such.

[Futuo]

Tories make massive gains, best election result for them for 50 years but don't get the required majority because Labour have fixed the boundary changes to that end. If it was a football match Labour's goal would be six inches wide and the Tories goal 20 ft wide.

Blatant cheating.

[plasticpig]

SmoothRB said:

plasticpig said:

SmoothRB said:

I don't want PR where you don't have a direct constituency MP.

We could still have that if a single transferable vote system is used.

Sure but it's not really PR as such.

Yes it is! It's the system favoured by the Electoral Reform Society. It's also the system the Lib Dems want.

[Futuo]

Anyone who supports PR therefore wants a few BNP MPs as that's what will happen, so do you?

[sjn2004]

Futuo said:

Anyone who supports PR therefore wants a few BNP MPs as that's what will happen, so do you?

Would the numbers/ratio's of MEP's be a good guide as to the results of PR?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Members_of_the_Europe...

LibDEM - 11 MEP's

UKIP - 12 MEP's

I guess the grass is always greener on the other side of the fence!

[HarryW]

Futuo said:

Tories make massive gains, best election result for them for 50 years but don't get the required majority because Labour have fixed the boundary changes to that end. If it was a football match Labour's goal would be six inches wide and the Tories goal 20 ft wide.

Blatant cheating.

+1

It really annoys me that the press just regurgitate the party spin doctors output, you can see Malcolm Tuckers fingers all over this.

Why aren't the press majoring on the boundary changes as the reason, Labour knew this in Feb when they 'instructed' the civil service to plan for this outcome, Winky was full of pirde on Friday announcing that, perhaps they full knew well this was the only outcome. Come-on you journalist with backbones and pride get digging, Mandy can only smear you the once........................