The Lib-Lab coalition

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jains15

1,013 posts

174 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Castrol Craig said:
Vario-Rob said:
W124Bob said:
So Manchester United win the league after all because they borrowed a couple of goals from Arsenel and Tottenham,Brilliant!
That’s not strictly true, it’s on a par with my own Norwich City not only being promoted again but then being awarded 100 goals at the start of the season guaranteeing them a Champions League spot for the following season.

Borrowing a few goals does this farce no justice at all, to the barricades we go
what he said^^^

shocking really.
Another football analogy, this time World cup related.

The winner of this year’s World Cup will be decided thus. There will be 4 joint winners;

a. Loser of the final
b. Loser of one of the Semi finals
c&d. Two teams kicked out in the group stages.


All four teams will have their names on the trophy. Captain of Team A resigned on night of final, at half time. New captain will have name engraved on trophy, although he was on the bench for the whole match.



The actual winner of the final will be named as the 5th placed team. World Cup will be replayed in late 2011.



Edited by jains15 on Tuesday 11th May 12:34

5unny

4,395 posts

183 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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Gilligan in the Telegraph makes a similar point:

(Sorry about formating, posting from phone).





The Tories should pray for a Lib-Lab coalition

 

By Andrew Gilligan ⁠Politics ⁠Last updated: May 10th, 2010

⁠90 Comments ⁠Comment on this article

A Lib-Lab coalition would be democratically preposterous, defying the laws of political gravity. But for that very reason it could, in the medium term, be the best possible outcome for the Tories.  It would be losers propping up losers. It would be hugely difficult to keep together, lacking a majority of its own and requiring life-support from various nationalist parties. It would be vulnerable to all sorts of unsavoury Celtic blackmail, enraging the already long-suffering English (whose own voting intentions were very clear.)

It would lead to a second unelected prime minister. It might well trigger serious trouble in the financial markets. It would have to make drastic cuts with no mandate whatever. Electoral reform (which I support) would be discredited, because it would be seen as a cynical gerrymander to keep losers in power. Labour would probably be unable to deliver it, even if they wanted to (and it’s far from certain that they do.)  

For all these reasons, a red-yellow alliance would be a political disaster for all those involved. When the inevitable collapse, and new election, came, probably within months, both Labour and the Lib Dems would be annihilated. 

The much more sensible thing for Labour to do would be to go into opposition, let the Tories and Lib Dems suffer the pain of having to make cuts, and hope to profit in a future election, which might also come rather more quickly than usual.

The next year or two would have been horrible enough for whoever was in charge, even if they’d had a clear majority. Without one, it will be simply a world of pain. I still think it’s hugely unlikely we’ll end up with red-yellow rule – I should imagine the current Lib/Lab negotiations are just Clegg’s way of getting more from the Tories. But if it does somehow happen, the Tories will have dodged a bullet – and been handed an Exocet for later on.

gtdc

4,259 posts

284 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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What would happen if the conjoined BrownClegg thing DIDN'T make any cuts? How long would we have before the bailiffs arrived?

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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anonymous said:
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To be honest the state we are in now...would it be better to allow the Lib Dems and Labour get together their Evil Alliance and have a go? It can't last long and maybe the ensuing IMF-driven austerity measures would drive the populace to the Tories by the end of the year?

sonic_2k_uk

4,007 posts

208 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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5unny said:
Gilligan in the Telegraph makes a similar point:

(Sorry about formating, posting from phone).
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/andrewgilligan/100039094/the-tories-should-pray-for-a-lib-lab-coalition/

Oakey

27,593 posts

217 months

Tuesday 11th May 2010
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jains15 said:
Castrol Craig said:
Vario-Rob said:
W124Bob said:
So Manchester United win the league after all because they borrowed a couple of goals from Arsenel and Tottenham,Brilliant!
That’s not strictly true, it’s on a par with my own Norwich City not only being promoted again but then being awarded 100 goals at the start of the season guaranteeing them a Champions League spot for the following season.

Borrowing a few goals does this farce no justice at all, to the barricades we go
what he said^^^

shocking really.
Another football analogy, this time World cup related.

The winner of this year’s World Cup will be decided thus. There will be 4 joint winners;

a. Loser of the final
b. Loser of one of the Semi finals
c&d. Two teams kicked out in the group stages.


All four teams will have their names on the trophy. Captain of Team A resigned on night of final, at half time. New captain will have name engraved on trophy, although he was on the bench for the whole match.



The actual winner of the final will be named as the 5th placed team. World Cup will be replayed in late 2011.



Edited by jains15 on Tuesday 11th May 12:34
This Lab-Lib logic can be applied to just about anything, the possibilities are endless, for example;

Ferrari and Red Bull teaming up to put them ahead of Mclaren

Bronze and Silver Medallists pooling their efforts at the 2012 Olympics to claim Gold

and so on and so forth