A Lib/Lab Pact....and how do YOU feel about it.

[plasticpig]

AJS- said:

Better than a Lib/Con pact.

The Conservatives might be the best of a bad bunch in that someone in the party has a basic understanding of economics, but in coalition with the Lib Dems this would be useless. Worst of all, a few months of scandals and failures under this arrangement might even let the Labour scum back in, or let a Labour/LD pact form that would damn us to another 5 years of left wing ruin.

Labour/Liberal pact, with input from the other little weirdo lefty parties, would definitely give us a Tory government next time around, probably with a decent majority, and hence the muscle to force through some proper changes.

Also, and I fully expect to be shouted down for saying this but I don't hate the Lib Dems in the same way I hate Labour. At least they have some interest in civil liberties and some idea that certain areas of life don't need to be regulated by the state.

Labour on the other hand is a party of theiving fascist scum set up with the express intention of punishing the "rich" and "successful" (which is anyone a little richer or more succesful then them), with the supposed circuitous benefit of "the poor" a mere excuse. I want to see the party completely destroyed forever, but to do that they need to show their true nasty colours. They're starting to now, and another spell of them destroying the country might be enough to tip the balance.

To be fair Vince Cable has some understanding of economics. You don't become the chief economist of a global oil company without some knowledge in the subject.

[anonymous-user]

AJS- said:

Labour/Liberal pact, with input from the other little weirdo lefty parties, would definitely give us a Tory government next time around, probably with a decent majority, and hence the muscle to force through some proper changes.

i suspect the socialist morons would try to attack 'the brown deficit' by fleecing anyone who actually works for a living rather than cutting spending. there will be no getting back the money they redistribute to their voters in the mean time.

Edited by fbrs on Tuesday 11th May 13:39

[chris watton]

plasticpig said:

To be fair Vince Cable has some understanding of economics. You don't become the chief economist of a global oil company without some knowledge in the subject.

I'm not so sure, whenever quizzed hard about the 'great sage's' predictions and back tracking, he isn't so great after all.

[richardxjr]

(News24) Prescott's been wheeled out

opcorn:

[Devil2575]

Oakey said:

Devil2575 said:

This is how our electoral system works in the case of a hung parliment.

If you don't like it then perhaps it's time for an altenative voting system.

Also the combined votes of labour and the Lib Dems is 4.5 million more than the Tories.

What is bad for the tories is that after a massive world wide recession and 13 years of labour they didn't walk it. Perhaps because although people are pissed of with labour they don't really want the conservative either.

So Lib/Lab pact, not my prefered choice but at least we'll get a chance to change the voting system.

You have to love this sort of logic.

So, using this same logic, Ferrari and Red Bull should team up putting them ahead of Mclaren?

We should apply this logic to everything in life just so we all get our own way.

Edited by Oakey on Tuesday 11th May 12:43

It the logic of our electoral system.

All I am saying is that the country did not vote for a conservative government, despite what the Tories on this fourm may say

[Jinx]

Devil2575 said:

All I am saying is that the country did not vote for a conservative government, despite what the Tories on this fourm may say

England did.

[perdu]

Devil2575 said:

Oakey said:

Devil2575 said:

This is how our electoral system works in the case of a hung parliment.

If you don't like it then perhaps it's time for an altenative voting system.

Also the combined votes of labour and the Lib Dems is 4.5 million more than the Tories.

What is bad for the tories is that after a massive world wide recession and 13 years of labour they didn't walk it. Perhaps because although people are pissed of with labour they don't really want the conservative either.

So Lib/Lab pact, not my prefered choice but at least we'll get a chance to change the voting system.

You have to love this sort of logic.

So, using this same logic, Ferrari and Red Bull should team up putting them ahead of Mclaren?

We should apply this logic to everything in life just so we all get our own way.

Edited by Oakey on Tuesday 11th May 12:43

It the logic of our electoral system.

All I am saying is that the country did not vote for a conservative government, despite what the Tories on this fourm may say

utter tripe

the country voted for more MPs from the Conservatives than from the Labour party or the Liberal Democrats

together

Fact

And how the Libs can allow the word democrat in their title after the past two days is beyond me

I think I'll go off for a drive

while I still can

[JB!]

Jinx said:

Devil2575 said:

All I am saying is that the country did not vote for a conservative government, despite what the Tories on this fourm may say

England did.

yep. 100 seats more than labour?

[Oakey]

Devil2575 said:

Oakey said:

Devil2575 said:

This is how our electoral system works in the case of a hung parliment.

If you don't like it then perhaps it's time for an altenative voting system.

Also the combined votes of labour and the Lib Dems is 4.5 million more than the Tories.

What is bad for the tories is that after a massive world wide recession and 13 years of labour they didn't walk it. Perhaps because although people are pissed of with labour they don't really want the conservative either.

So Lib/Lab pact, not my prefered choice but at least we'll get a chance to change the voting system.

You have to love this sort of logic.

So, using this same logic, Ferrari and Red Bull should team up putting them ahead of Mclaren?

We should apply this logic to everything in life just so we all get our own way.

Edited by Oakey on Tuesday 11th May 12:43

It the logic of our electoral system.

All I am saying is that the country did not vote for a conservative government, despite what the Tories on this fourm may say

They didn't vote for Labour or Lib Dems either but people seem to conveniently ignore that and for some reason suddenly believe that when they cast their vote on Thursday they were voting for Labour and the Lib Dems together.

ETA: It's like saying that the majority of Londoners voted for Boris Johnson but as Brian Paddock and Ken Livingstone got more combined votes they're taking the job. It's absurd.

Edited by Oakey on Tuesday 11th May 13:55

[thatone1967]

the whole thing is fked...

how can the people with the least votes (and less than last time) become "kingmakers"???

Sorry if posted above, but am at work.. and there's a lot to read!



BBC now saying that LIB/LAB is unlikely, and lib dems going back to talk to the tories... at last some sense....

Edited by thatone1967 on Tuesday 11th May 14:00

[anonymous-user]

thatone1967 said:

BBC now saying that LIB/LAB is unlikely, and lib dems going back to talk to the tories... at last some sense....

liblab talks are only a bargaining position for lib. even they know a liblab pact is too weak and has no real legitimacy. IMO they are just trying to extract whatever concessions they can from cameron. the threat of a liblab pact, no matter how unlikely, is the only card they have so they have to play it.

[Yertis]

No, no, NO...

FFS...

[AJS-]

TheFlyingBanana said:

AJS- said:

Labour/Liberal pact, with input from the other little weirdo lefty parties, would definitely give us a Tory government next time around,

I really wouldn't be so sure about this...

AJS- said:

Labour on the other hand is a party of theiving fascist scum set up with the express intention of punishing the "rich" and "successful" (which is anyone a little richer or more succesful then them), with the supposed circuitous benefit of "the poor" a mere excuse. I want to see the party completely destroyed forever, but to do that they need to show their true nasty colours. They're starting to now, and another spell of them destroying the country might be enough to tip the balance.

I think you are saying that you aren't, on balance, overly keen on the Labour party and socialist principles in general.

They aren't fascists though.

However, it is in no-ones interest to have a major political party destroyed, least of all democracies. Despite the flaws in our system, it is still the least worst form of government there is...

What's wrong with destroying a major political party? Was destroying the NAZI party bad for democracy? Would destroying Zanu PF be? IMO the Labour party is completely anti democratic, and as I said built out of malice and spite, hiding behind the foolish idealism of a failed ideology.

[peterpeter]

what's clear from speaking to quite a few people to day is the general anger about the situation. Even those who voted LibDem and Labour are finding the whole thing very distasteful.

This can only work to the conservatives advantage as its clear the conservatives have conducted themselves well.

Nick Clegg is ruining his "halo" image by the hour. He is showing that he cares more about his party politics than he does about the country.
I am sure he will go with the conservatives, but he shouldn't have even entertained speaking to Labour. He has shown himself to be dishonorable especially considering his "kingmaker"comments and the comments
after the election.

[anonymous-user]

peterpeter said:

Nick Clegg is ruining his "halo" image by the hour. He is showing that he cares more about his party politics than he does about the country.

we're talking a nation where 10m people voted for more of the same party that has driven us to the brink of bankrupcy whilst taxing us more and plundering our pensions. im afraid a majority of the population are too fvcking stupid to see what you see.