The Unions are going to fight all spending cuts...
Discussion
Thats nice of them...
The new government is tasked with reducing the overspend and has started by cutting MP wages to show the way and Bob Crow comes up with this little gem:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/826643-advice-to-treas...
And these window lickers are doing their best to take the UK to the cleaners.
What is it they dont get?
The new government is tasked with reducing the overspend and has started by cutting MP wages to show the way and Bob Crow comes up with this little gem:
RMT w
ker leader said:
ker leader said: General secretary Bob Crow said: "We cannot afford to wait for politicians to unleash a £50 billion slash and burn attack on our public services, jobs and living standards after May 6.
"We have to start the fightback now and that means concerted action by trade unions to resist the all-out assault we know is coming."
The GMB said its members would be out in force over the weekend across the UK and Ireland, including a rally in London on Saturday, where officials from the union's sex workers branch will be among the speakers.
And again here:"We have to start the fightback now and that means concerted action by trade unions to resist the all-out assault we know is coming."
The GMB said its members would be out in force over the weekend across the UK and Ireland, including a rally in London on Saturday, where officials from the union's sex workers branch will be among the speakers.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/826643-advice-to-treas...
Why just Why!! said:
Trade unionists say they are ready for a fight to save jobs in the face of cuts.
‘The Tories have always been the party of mass unemployment because that suits their class and keeps the workers under the cosh,’ said the RMT’s Bob Crow.
‘The Labour movement and community groups and campaigns cannot afford to wait for Cameron and Osborne and their Lib Dem lackeys to fire up the bulldozer – we need to be preparing to fight back right now.’
Britain faces ‘fiscal fascism in all its Thatcherite glory,’ he claimed.
we need to cut the public sector and the wastage of the previous government and we need to do it yesterday so that we dont go the same way as Greece.‘The Tories have always been the party of mass unemployment because that suits their class and keeps the workers under the cosh,’ said the RMT’s Bob Crow.
‘The Labour movement and community groups and campaigns cannot afford to wait for Cameron and Osborne and their Lib Dem lackeys to fire up the bulldozer – we need to be preparing to fight back right now.’
Britain faces ‘fiscal fascism in all its Thatcherite glory,’ he claimed.
And these window lickers are doing their best to take the UK to the cleaners.
What is it they dont get?
)Dupont666 said:
Thats nice of them...
The new government is tasked with reducing the overspend and has started by cutting MP wages to show the way and Bob Crow comes up with this little gem:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/826643-advice-to-treas...
And these window lickers are doing their best to take the UK to the cleaners.
What is it they dont get?
Its their job to do this though, so why the surprise? You might not like or agree, but its their job. They are paid by their members to protect the rights of the workers. Lets face it, the Tories will most likely cut around 2 million jobs in the government sector over the next 5 years, to save money to pay this big black hole in the economy. There may be a sma ll percentage of high end wage earners losing their jobs, but the majority will be lower scale people, those providing real frontline services. The new government is tasked with reducing the overspend and has started by cutting MP wages to show the way and Bob Crow comes up with this little gem:
RMT wker leader said:
ker leader said: General secretary Bob Crow said: "We cannot afford to wait for politicians to unleash a £50 billion slash and burn attack on our public services, jobs and living standards after May 6.
"We have to start the fightback now and that means concerted action by trade unions to resist the all-out assault we know is coming."
The GMB said its members would be out in force over the weekend across the UK and Ireland, including a rally in London on Saturday, where officials from the union's sex workers branch will be among the speakers.
And again here:"We have to start the fightback now and that means concerted action by trade unions to resist the all-out assault we know is coming."
The GMB said its members would be out in force over the weekend across the UK and Ireland, including a rally in London on Saturday, where officials from the union's sex workers branch will be among the speakers.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/826643-advice-to-treas...
Why just Why!! said:
Trade unionists say they are ready for a fight to save jobs in the face of cuts.
‘The Tories have always been the party of mass unemployment because that suits their class and keeps the workers under the cosh,’ said the RMT’s Bob Crow.
‘The Labour movement and community groups and campaigns cannot afford to wait for Cameron and Osborne and their Lib Dem lackeys to fire up the bulldozer – we need to be preparing to fight back right now.’
Britain faces ‘fiscal fascism in all its Thatcherite glory,’ he claimed.
we need to cut the public sector and the wastage of the previous government and we need to do it yesterday so that we dont go the same way as Greece.‘The Tories have always been the party of mass unemployment because that suits their class and keeps the workers under the cosh,’ said the RMT’s Bob Crow.
‘The Labour movement and community groups and campaigns cannot afford to wait for Cameron and Osborne and their Lib Dem lackeys to fire up the bulldozer – we need to be preparing to fight back right now.’
Britain faces ‘fiscal fascism in all its Thatcherite glory,’ he claimed.
And these window lickers are doing their best to take the UK to the cleaners.
What is it they dont get?
PistonHeaders will be the first complaining next winter when theres no one out gritting the roads or repairing potholes etc. Yet these are likely the level of people that will nmost suffer from government cuts.
Dupont666 said:
Thats nice of them...
The new government is tasked with reducing the overspend and has started by cutting MP wages to show the way and Bob Crow comes up with this little gem:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/826643-advice-to-treas...
And these window lickers are doing their best to take the UK to the cleaners.
What is it they dont get?
Away from work, Bob seems a lovely chapThe new government is tasked with reducing the overspend and has started by cutting MP wages to show the way and Bob Crow comes up with this little gem:
RMT wker leader said:
ker leader said: General secretary Bob Crow said: "We cannot afford to wait for politicians to unleash a £50 billion slash and burn attack on our public services, jobs and living standards after May 6.
"We have to start the fightback now and that means concerted action by trade unions to resist the all-out assault we know is coming."
The GMB said its members would be out in force over the weekend across the UK and Ireland, including a rally in London on Saturday, where officials from the union's sex workers branch will be among the speakers.
And again here:"We have to start the fightback now and that means concerted action by trade unions to resist the all-out assault we know is coming."
The GMB said its members would be out in force over the weekend across the UK and Ireland, including a rally in London on Saturday, where officials from the union's sex workers branch will be among the speakers.
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/826643-advice-to-treas...
Why just Why!! said:
Trade unionists say they are ready for a fight to save jobs in the face of cuts.
‘The Tories have always been the party of mass unemployment because that suits their class and keeps the workers under the cosh,’ said the RMT’s Bob Crow.
‘The Labour movement and community groups and campaigns cannot afford to wait for Cameron and Osborne and their Lib Dem lackeys to fire up the bulldozer – we need to be preparing to fight back right now.’
Britain faces ‘fiscal fascism in all its Thatcherite glory,’ he claimed.
we need to cut the public sector and the wastage of the previous government and we need to do it yesterday so that we dont go the same way as Greece.‘The Tories have always been the party of mass unemployment because that suits their class and keeps the workers under the cosh,’ said the RMT’s Bob Crow.
‘The Labour movement and community groups and campaigns cannot afford to wait for Cameron and Osborne and their Lib Dem lackeys to fire up the bulldozer – we need to be preparing to fight back right now.’
Britain faces ‘fiscal fascism in all its Thatcherite glory,’ he claimed.
And these window lickers are doing their best to take the UK to the cleaners.
What is it they dont get?
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-238...
There's a time coming fast when the Public at large realise Unions as they stand are not fit for purpose. A union should sit quietly in the background and support their members in employment issues. Their success should be measured by how little you really notice them.
Like Scamera Partnerships, the Unions know that if they're ultimately successful in their aims, they will become redundant, so it is in their interests to heighten and prolong the conflicts that keep them in business.
What I suspect is that the Unions were feeling rather smug at having almost total control of New Labour and now they feel put out that they're now just a 'lacky' for whoever is in opposition. Hardly a position at the top table now, is it?
Like Scamera Partnerships, the Unions know that if they're ultimately successful in their aims, they will become redundant, so it is in their interests to heighten and prolong the conflicts that keep them in business.
What I suspect is that the Unions were feeling rather smug at having almost total control of New Labour and now they feel put out that they're now just a 'lacky' for whoever is in opposition. Hardly a position at the top table now, is it?
It is their job and unfortunatley they are winning. The PCS union got the new severance terms quashed last week. This basically means that even if you do slash 20%-25% of the jobs it will cost on average about £50k-£80k to cut out each and every one.
Edited by OneDs on Tuesday 18th May 09:34
So its the public sector/government spending that has spiralled out of control and now we effectively using a credit card to pay for them, when the new government try and stop this as its only going to be bad using borrowed money.
The Unions all strike, cost the taxpayers more money and then demand a decent payrise (tube workers demands this year and if not they strike), thats just blackmail... Its not a union in the true sense of the word, a union is there to help unfair decisions, not stop the recovery of the UK deficit and then demand that more money is given to them.
Theoretical question....
What would happen if the ConDem (they will be after this suggestion) were to say that once the money in the coffers from taxs, etc is used up then there is no more... like taking away the credit card and cutting it up. Each sector has a budget for the year, they can do with it as they will, but when the money runs out they have to cost cut themselves and not come to the government begging cap in hand as there is no funds left.
The Unions all strike, cost the taxpayers more money and then demand a decent payrise (tube workers demands this year and if not they strike), thats just blackmail... Its not a union in the true sense of the word, a union is there to help unfair decisions, not stop the recovery of the UK deficit and then demand that more money is given to them.
Theoretical question....
What would happen if the ConDem (they will be after this suggestion) were to say that once the money in the coffers from taxs, etc is used up then there is no more... like taking away the credit card and cutting it up. Each sector has a budget for the year, they can do with it as they will, but when the money runs out they have to cost cut themselves and not come to the government begging cap in hand as there is no funds left.
Pupp said:
Dupont666 said:
The new government... has started by cutting MP wages
Actually, it was ministers' wages. Always lose interest in a thread when the opening assertion is patently inaccurate 
MPs, ministers... was a simple mistake at that time in the morning whilst on the phone at the same time.
Dupont666 said:
So its the public sector/government spending that has spiralled out of control and now we effectively using a credit card to pay for them, when the new government try and stop this as its only going to be bad using borrowed money.
The Unions all strike, cost the taxpayers more money and then demand a decent payrise (tube workers demands this year and if not they strike), thats just blackmail... Its not a union in the true sense of the word, a union is there to help unfair decisions, not stop the recovery of the UK deficit and then demand that more money is given to them.
Theoretical question....
What would happen if the ConDem (they will be after this suggestion) were to say that once the money in the coffers from taxs, etc is used up then there is no more... like taking away the credit card and cutting it up. Each sector has a budget for the year, they can do with it as they will, but when the money runs out they have to cost cut themselves and not come to the government begging cap in hand as there is no funds left.
That is exactly what happens for the vote funded depts & agencies, this govt will have a smaller budget to start with so they will be fighting over smaller budgets than previous years.The Unions all strike, cost the taxpayers more money and then demand a decent payrise (tube workers demands this year and if not they strike), thats just blackmail... Its not a union in the true sense of the word, a union is there to help unfair decisions, not stop the recovery of the UK deficit and then demand that more money is given to them.
Theoretical question....
What would happen if the ConDem (they will be after this suggestion) were to say that once the money in the coffers from taxs, etc is used up then there is no more... like taking away the credit card and cutting it up. Each sector has a budget for the year, they can do with it as they will, but when the money runs out they have to cost cut themselves and not come to the government begging cap in hand as there is no funds left.
How ever you must agree that it is wholly advantagous (as it is for any large business) to offset major investment costs over a number years and initially borrow money. So I would assume that the current government will continue to borrow to meet critical demands in frontline service and pear down elsewhere and raise taxes to meet the borrowing requirements.
I'm not advocating that labour borrowed appropriately whilst in govt BTW.
Edited by OneDs on Tuesday 18th May 09:43
Tony*T3 said:
There may be a sma ll percentage of high end wage earners losing their jobs, but the majority will be lower scale people, those providing real frontline services.
I thought the point was to safeguard those at the sharp end but get rid of the multiple non-job managers behind them?Dupont666 said:
Pupp said:
Dupont666 said:
The new government... has started by cutting MP wages
Actually, it was ministers' wages. Always lose interest in a thread when the opening assertion is patently inaccurate MPs, ministers... was a simple mistake at that time in the morning whilst on the phone at the same time.
Pupp said:
Dupont666 said:
Pupp said:
Dupont666 said:
The new government... has started by cutting MP wages
Actually, it was ministers' wages. Always lose interest in a thread when the opening assertion is patently inaccurate MPs, ministers... was a simple mistake at that time in the morning whilst on the phone at the same time.
Asterix said:
Tony*T3 said:
There may be a sma ll percentage of high end wage earners losing their jobs, but the majority will be lower scale people, those providing real frontline services.
I thought the point was to safeguard those at the sharp end but get rid of the multiple non-job managers behind them?a, increase it to 25% or even 30% and
b, task it over 2-3 years
Bob Crowe - such a lovely man http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279035/RM...
garyhun said:
Bob Crowe - such a lovely man http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1279035/RM...
So the labour person who was fired over the twitter incident for gloading people etc and this twunt is defended by the union as 'lively bater' and the other team being sore losers.Where is the number for MI5?
Cutting Ministers pay was an inspired idea.
Claims the moral high ground. AT NO COST. They haven't been paid the first time since getting the jobs: what you've not had you won't miss!
...and now they can legitimately ask every public servant paid more than a regular MP to take the same hit.
Good for them.
Claims the moral high ground. AT NO COST. They haven't been paid the first time since getting the jobs: what you've not had you won't miss!
...and now they can legitimately ask every public servant paid more than a regular MP to take the same hit.
Good for them.
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