Townies meet foxes

[PintOfKittens]

okgo said:

Hardly surprsing is it.

This would NOT have made the news if it wasn't for that other incident, which is what I find amusing.

Speaking of which, we haven't had a killer dog attack story for a few months? That will happen again soon, and then 5 other minor dog attack stories will follow. Promising young footbalist etc etc

fk the press.

I have a feeling all of these "Fox attacks" are actually dog attacks, but thats just me.

[Galsia]

I have a feeling that more of these 'incidents' will appear in the media to soften the blow just before the Tories reintroduce fox hunting...

[Futuo]

Tiggsy said:

I've never got the "tree rat" thing....if real rats lived in trees and ate nuts no one would care - its only because of their ability to go through bins/st that people dont want them around. I've yet to see a squirrel behave in any way that is negative towards me or my property.

And in 10 years here i cant ever recall seeing any cat or fox st....we have dogs so maybe that find this too scary a place for a dump?

Do rats hang around poo? AFAIK they are quite clean critters, had some rats at home and there wasn't any droppings as they are meant to have a place for that.

Liked our pasta, flour, breakfast cereal mind so we had to get plastic containers for them all and I put poison down, nearly dead one under sink bleeding from the mouth - wife most impressed as it greeted her on top of the washing powder.

If you have dogs amazed the cats or foxes in your garden usually does the trick of keeping them at bay.

Jasandjules said:

Futuo said:

I don't, if you are happy with it's crap and maybe eating your kids then fine and dandy that's your choice.

Ah, the "Won't somebody PLEASE think of the children" line.

I think you've just lost the argument.

So how much did your sense of humour bypass op cost, was it on the NHS?

Galsia said:

I have a feeling that more of these 'incidents' will appear in the media to soften the blow just before the Tories reintroduce fox hunting...

Lets hope so..........

[Halb]

Futuo said:

TonyToniTone said:

Are they only allowed one shot?

Nope, but they still have a less successful kill/alive rate than a hunt.

Defra disagrees.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/rural/countryside/hunting/...

[G_T]

Futuo said:

Maybe they will finally realise they are nowt but vermin and not some cuddly little thing that needs protecting from some hooray henrys

Can't they be both?

[ClaphamGT3]

ShadownINja said:

Futuo said:

not some cuddly little thing that needs protecting from some hooray henrys

TBH I don't really want a load of horses galloping through my back garden chasing a fox. I'd rather someone shot it in the head.

which is what I tend to do with any foxes that come into our garden which, unsurprisingly, they do less & less frequently

Edited by ClaphamGT3 on Tuesday 22 June 15:50

[rhinochopig]

Halb said:

Futuo said:

TonyToniTone said:

Are they only allowed one shot?

Nope, but they still have a less successful kill/alive rate than a hunt.

Defra disagrees.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/rural/countryside/hunting/...

I has the same argument about this on hear last year IIRC. If you look at how many hunts were active pre-ban, the rough hit ratio, and how often they ride out - the kill figures are tiny and as form of population control is utterly ineffective.

You can use the data either way - the hunts kill so few so why ban it / the hunts claim population control and are wrong so have no justification for continuing other than as a sport.

[WreckedGecko]

rhinochopig said:

Halb said:

Futuo said:

TonyToniTone said:

Are they only allowed one shot?

Nope, but they still have a less successful kill/alive rate than a hunt.

Defra disagrees.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/rural/countryside/hunting/...

I has the same argument about this on hear last year IIRC. If you look at how many hunts were active pre-ban, the rough hit ratio, and how often they ride out - the kill figures are tiny and as form of population control is utterly ineffective.

You can use the data either way - the hunts kill so few so why ban it / the hunts claim population control and are wrong so have no justification for continuing other than as a sport.

I have always been supprised that people ever claimed it as an effective population control method. Personally I think hunting's real strength lay in the amount of money it brought into small comunities/numbers employed.
£20,000 for a dead fox... yeah I'll take that. £20,000 for a fox that gets away... yeah I'll take that.

The whole Toff thing is simply a good old bit of class war, oddly purpetuated by middle classes, against a majority middle class pursuit (and yes i know that lots of lords etc do enjoy it too)that funnels money into working class comunities.

My 2p worth.

[Ulverston]

Futuo said:

Dear shell suit wearing scum, do you mind if us Toffs kill a few foxes?

Are you a 'Toff'?

It's just from reading some of your other equally dreadful posts you seem to be some sort of shop assistant at an Opticians.

Can you clear this confusion up for me?

[Futuo]

WreckedGecko said:

rhinochopig said:

Halb said:

Futuo said:

TonyToniTone said:

Are they only allowed one shot?

Nope, but they still have a less successful kill/alive rate than a hunt.

Defra disagrees.
http://www.defra.gov.uk/rural/countryside/hunting/...

I has the same argument about this on hear last year IIRC. If you look at how many hunts were active pre-ban, the rough hit ratio, and how often they ride out - the kill figures are tiny and as form of population control is utterly ineffective.

You can use the data either way - the hunts kill so few so why ban it / the hunts claim population control and are wrong so have no justification for continuing other than as a sport.

I have always been supprised that people ever claimed it as an effective population control method. Personally I think hunting's real strength lay in the amount of money it brought into small comunities/numbers employed.
£20,000 for a dead fox... yeah I'll take that. £20,000 for a fox that gets away... yeah I'll take that.

The whole Toff thing is simply a good old bit of class war, oddly purpetuated by middle classes, against a majority middle class pursuit (and yes i know that lots of lords etc do enjoy it too)that funnels money into working class comunities.

My 2p worth.

With a hunt it is either dead or alive, with a gun it might be just injured, not sure what is so difficult to grasp about that.

Class envy not war.

Ulverston said:

Futuo said:

Dear shell suit wearing scum, do you mind if us Toffs kill a few foxes?

Are you a 'Toff'?

It's just from reading some of your other equally dreadful posts you seem to be some sort of shop assistant at an Opticians.

Can you clear this confusion up for me?

No I am not a toff, never said I was did I?

No I'm the YTS trainee who is in charge of the kettle and a pricing gun, fool.....

[Tiggsy]

Futuo said:

Tiggsy said:

I've never got the "tree rat" thing....if real rats lived in trees and ate nuts no one would care - its only because of their ability to go through bins/st that people dont want them around. I've yet to see a squirrel behave in any way that is negative towards me or my property.

And in 10 years here i cant ever recall seeing any cat or fox st....we have dogs so maybe that find this too scary a place for a dump?

Do rats hang around poo? AFAIK they are quite clean critters, had some rats at home and there wasn't any droppings as they are meant to have a place for that.....

I owned rats too.....I don't think many pet rats go wandering round the sewer though!

[fluffnik]

Futuo said:

Maybe they will finally realise they are nowt but vermin and not some cuddly little thing that needs protecting from some hooray henrys

Urban foxes need eliminated.

[anonymous-user]

Caught a fox in the kitchen last night eating the dogs food. Getting a little too cocky now, the buggers!! No more leaving the kitchen door open in the hot weather

[Dakkon]

Racingdude009 said:

zakelwe said:

It does make you think how nice the UK is though, kid finds a tail and pulls it and gets a nip, compare that to say India or Australia where if a kid pulled on a tail sticking out what might be on the other end.

I once put a vibrator up my bum.

EFA

[gareth_r]

ShadownINja said:

Futuo said:

Re shooting them, it's not the best method as if you miss it may last for days in agony as the wound is infected, with hounds it is either dead or alive no half measures.

There was a fox in some cricket grounds in the southern area of England (Portsmouth?). They used a professional marksman to kill him. Should they have had the horses and hounds run over the cricket green?

Lamp, lurcher, big stick. Much safer (for the public, not for the fox).

[KENZ]

[DonkeyApple]

KENZ said:

Don't tell me you are hiding in your car?

[Sheets Tabuer]

Nope, that was taken at t-minus 15 seconds.

[Pothole]

DonkeyApple said:

deevlash said:

Tiggsy said:

So if you're a townie and think people that like to hunt foxes on a horse are weird in the head and also think foxes running round the garden are quiet cool.....where does that leave me?

naive.

No, normal, I would say.

Personally, I do see a difference between a town fox and a country fox. In a town they are just vermin which means you can handle them at your own personal discretion. If you want to get rid of them fine, if you want to use them to teach your children about wild animals etc fine, or if you want to peg your sprog out for Mr Fluffy-Wuffy to feast on, fine. Out in the country they are a genuine threat to peoples' livlihood, so shoot them in the face.

I do treat the two differently. I am more than happy to shoot a fox when at the house, but enjoy seeing them padding around London when at the flat. In London I think they bring an essence of normality to a pretty fked up living environment.

Having said that, I won't be smeering my children in dripping and leaving them in the garden. They will learn what foxes are and that they are not fluffy little animals.

As for hunts, well I know quite a few people who ride with the hunt and with the exception of the brokers and lawyers who are doing it to drum up business the real people are nearly always highly entertaining nut jobs. Very amusing and likeable, wierd people in my experience.

ok

[KENZ]

DonkeyApple said:

KENZ said:

Don't tell me you are hiding in your car?

It certainly wasn't scared of me. It was more concerned of the crow that was swooping at it, reckon it must have disturbed it's nest of chicks earlier.

Edited by KENZ on Tuesday 6th July 14:50