P*ss boilers

[markcoznottz]

Couple of stories, yes they are from Daily Wail, but it is our money .......

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289654/Ir...

This is unbelievable.....

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289702/Pu...

[Randy Winkman]

The first person is a crook. It is a p*ss boiler but nothing new.

In the second case - it would be very easy to find out who all these people are. Presumably the Mail is going to do that. It's what a proper newspaper would do.

[F i F]

found the salary levels quoted in the second story staggering frankly.

Genuine companies producing a valuable product or service are being bled dry to fund such as this, if, big if, very big if, if it's true.

Probably a composite of stories woven into one hypothetical department, or?

[Sticks.]

No, the first one is a foreign crook. Larger Wail headlines for that. Crook all the same.

Inner London council admin jobs are c £18k afaik, not the £38k seemingly quoted Still appaling mismanagement.

[Road Pest]

When my boss called me in to discuss this I, jokingly, said: 'Well I'll just let her misspell everything in future, shall I?' To which he replied: 'Yes, I think that's best for now.'

Lol, is the Mail or the Mash!

[Dunk76]

F i F said:

Probably a composite of stories woven into one hypothetical department, or?

Agreed - Far too ridiculous to be true.

[essexplumber]

I thought this thread was about a new carbon neutral way of heating ones home.

[Willie Dee]

markcoznottz said:

yes they are from Daily Wail, but it is our money .......

How does that make linking to something as atrocious as the Daily Mail OK?

[Hell27]

I really cannot believe that.

60 staff on a budget of 22 million? Cannot believe the wages quoted, seems like typical mail bullst.

[smifffymoto]

And just suppose for a minute that it's true.

[nelly1]

smifffymoto said:

And just suppose for a minute that it's true.

Even if it's half BS, it's probably got more than a ring of truth to it.

Anyone care to defend Public Sector waste first hand?

[The Hypno-Toad]

Dunk76 said:

F i F said:

Probably a composite of stories woven into one hypothetical department, or?

Agreed - Far too ridiculous to be true.

I would imagine that the story was a composite of replys posted on a thread similar to some of the ones on here. I can't believe that any department would be run like that.

[johnfm]

The six month sickie is true. Father in law used to manage a council care unit for caring for those with disabilities. A small number of staff (2 or 3) knew the rules and would be sick for months, come back to work for 3-4 weeks, then go on sick again.

Very hard to dismiss them too. But, they were only leeching £15k or so per year.

[Randy Winkman]

johnfm said:

The six month sickie is true.

Yes, as general rule, it is true that in the public sector you can have six months off sick on full pay. But that's been true for decades and is no secret. A person would also need to be signed of by a doctor to do this and it would clearly affect their career prospects. Who would want to have someone in their team that was never there?

[Countdown]

Just to clarify the 6 month sickie rule -

Its 6 months full pay/6months half pay during any 12 calendar month period. So you cannot go on 6 months full pay, come back for 1 day, and then go back onto 6 months full pay (as the article seems to suggest).

Pretty disgusting all the same and (IME) the offenders are considered scum of the earth by all their colleagues. Sadly the Unions are duty obliged to defend them and most HR departments aren't as aggressive as they should be. To be fair its not always the HR Dept's fault - Employment Tribunals can be flippin' ridiculous and expect employers to bend over backwards to accommodate employees problems.

[andyroo]

My wife's family all work in the public sector, and it is pretty common for them to take sick leave as extra holiday, and it is actively encouraged amongst workers by colleagues.

[Scraggles]

have had to take sick leave end of last year, had the toenails on both big toes surgically altered to stop them ingrowing, went back to work after 10 days ? cue lots of blood and the realisation that driving was not good, took most of december off as sick leave and holiday that had to be used in any case

been sick a few times and done some paperwork, so not officially sick according to my boss, if tried it on for a few weeks, might well get a p45

feel less upset that the council departments are getting pruned, suspect no-one will notice a work rate reduction

currently on holiday after thinking the long weekend would need a 1/2 day, but turns out it did not, so house clearance soon

[JulianHJ]

I work in the public sector, and I fully support massive budget cuts for over-funded, under-performing departments and organisations.

[Deva Link]

Countdown said:

Its 6 months full pay/6months half pay during any 12 calendar month period. So you cannot go on 6 months full pay, come back for 1 day, and then go back onto 6 months full pay (as the article seems to suggest).

There's much in that article that appears untrue. 2 weeks off without producing a sick note - I've never heard of that. And would employees really be so stupid as to buy sick notes on the internet and risk being sacked, prosecuted for fraud and losing everything?

It's standard practice in councils have someone who calls people on their first day off - it's dressed up as helping the employee. Some even send a nurse out to home visit - that dramatically reduces single day sickness.

[dmitsi]

Dunk76 said:

F i F said:

Probably a composite of stories woven into one hypothetical department, or?

Agreed - Far too ridiculous to be true.

Reminds me of two out of three depts. I worked in, I know of at least 5 long term sick in one of them alone. Also a good handful of lifers earning 60k plus for doing nothing, and I mean nothing. They had creative titles like department support liaison officer, sometimes they might do some light filing or photo-copying.

The flexi time was always used to the fullest, one small dept never had anyone in the office on a friday afternoon.

Edited by dmitsi on Monday 28th June 14:09