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Couple of stories, yes they are from Daily Wail, but it is our money .......
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289654/Ir...
This is unbelievable.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289702/Pu...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289654/Ir...
This is unbelievable.....
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1289702/Pu...
Dunk76 said:
F i F said:
Probably a composite of stories woven into one hypothetical department, or?
Agreed - Far too ridiculous to be true.The six month sickie is true. Father in law used to manage a council care unit for caring for those with disabilities. A small number of staff (2 or 3) knew the rules and would be sick for months, come back to work for 3-4 weeks, then go on sick again.
Very hard to dismiss them too. But, they were only leeching £15k or so per year.
Very hard to dismiss them too. But, they were only leeching £15k or so per year.
johnfm said:
The six month sickie is true.
Yes, as general rule, it is true that in the public sector you can have six months off sick on full pay. But that's been true for decades and is no secret. A person would also need to be signed of by a doctor to do this and it would clearly affect their career prospects. Who would want to have someone in their team that was never there? Just to clarify the 6 month sickie rule -
Its 6 months full pay/6months half pay during any 12 calendar month period. So you cannot go on 6 months full pay, come back for 1 day, and then go back onto 6 months full pay (as the article seems to suggest).
Pretty disgusting all the same and (IME) the offenders are considered scum of the earth by all their colleagues. Sadly the Unions are duty obliged to defend them and most HR departments aren't as aggressive as they should be. To be fair its not always the HR Dept's fault - Employment Tribunals can be flippin' ridiculous and expect employers to bend over backwards to accommodate employees problems.
Its 6 months full pay/6months half pay during any 12 calendar month period. So you cannot go on 6 months full pay, come back for 1 day, and then go back onto 6 months full pay (as the article seems to suggest).
Pretty disgusting all the same and (IME) the offenders are considered scum of the earth by all their colleagues. Sadly the Unions are duty obliged to defend them and most HR departments aren't as aggressive as they should be. To be fair its not always the HR Dept's fault - Employment Tribunals can be flippin' ridiculous and expect employers to bend over backwards to accommodate employees problems.
have had to take sick leave end of last year, had the toenails on both big toes surgically altered to stop them ingrowing, went back to work after 10 days ? cue lots of blood and the realisation that driving was not good, took most of december off as sick leave and holiday that had to be used in any case
been sick a few times and done some paperwork, so not officially sick according to my boss, if tried it on for a few weeks, might well get a p45
feel less upset that the council departments are getting pruned, suspect no-one will notice a work rate reduction
currently on holiday after thinking the long weekend would need a 1/2 day, but turns out it did not, so house clearance soon
been sick a few times and done some paperwork, so not officially sick according to my boss, if tried it on for a few weeks, might well get a p45
feel less upset that the council departments are getting pruned, suspect no-one will notice a work rate reduction
currently on holiday after thinking the long weekend would need a 1/2 day, but turns out it did not, so house clearance soon
Countdown said:
Its 6 months full pay/6months half pay during any 12 calendar month period. So you cannot go on 6 months full pay, come back for 1 day, and then go back onto 6 months full pay (as the article seems to suggest).
There's much in that article that appears untrue. 2 weeks off without producing a sick note - I've never heard of that. And would employees really be so stupid as to buy sick notes on the internet and risk being sacked, prosecuted for fraud and losing everything?It's standard practice in councils have someone who calls people on their first day off - it's dressed up as helping the employee. Some even send a nurse out to home visit - that dramatically reduces single day sickness.
Dunk76 said:
F i F said:
Probably a composite of stories woven into one hypothetical department, or?
Agreed - Far too ridiculous to be true.The flexi time was always used to the fullest, one small dept never had anyone in the office on a friday afternoon.
Edited by dmitsi on Monday 28th June 14:09
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