Fanatics Chop-off Teacher's Hand
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S'ok. She's To be hanged instead of stoned to death now.........
Courtesy of the BBC:
Iranian state TV has aired what it says is a confession by a woman under threat of being stoned to death for adultery.
In the interview shown on Wednesday, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani purportedly admits conspiring to murder her husband in 2005 and denounces her lawyer.
After an international outcry, Iranian officials temporarily halted her stoning sentence last month, but there are fears she will now be hanged.
The 43-year-old had said she was forced to confess to the charges of adultery.
In May 2006, a criminal court in East Azerbaijan province found Ms Ashtiani guilty of having had an "illicit relationship" with two men following the death of her husband. She was given 99 lashes.
But that September, during the trial of a man accused of murdering her husband, another court reopened an adultery case based on events that allegedly took place before her husband died.
Despite retracting a confession she said she had been forced to make under duress, Ms Ashtiani was convicted of "adultery while being married" and sentenced to death by stoning.
The mother-of-two's alleged confession to complicity in her husband's murder, which was made in Azeri and dubbed into Persian, was aired on one of the main state-run television channels.
There was no mention of the stoning sentence and the focus of the interview was moved away from the allegation of adultery.
The woman, whose face was pixelated, admitted her part in the 2005 killing, despite Ms Ashtiani having earlier told Western media that she had been acquitted of the charge.
She said her husband's cousin had told her he wanted to kill her husband, but that she had assumed this was a joke.
"Later I realised that he was a killer," the woman said.
One day the man had come to her house "with all the required equipment," she added.
"He had brought electric devices, wire and gloves. He then killed my husband by electrocuting him. He asked me before to send my children to their grandmother's house."
The woman also criticised Ms Ashtiani's lawyer, Mohammed Mostafaie, for interfering in the case.
"Why has he taken my case to the TV? Why has he disgraced me?"
Mr Mostafaie has fled Iran and is now seeking asylum in Norway.
Another of Ms Ashtiani's lawyers has said that she was tortured for two days in prison to force her to make her televised confession on Wednesday.
Ms Ashtiani had said she was forced to confess to the charges of adultery Human rights activists fear that she is now in danger of imminent execution.
The BBC's Tehran correspondent, Jon Leyne, says the Iranian authorities are clearly trying to move the focus away from the adultery charge and the stoning sentence, and to brand Ms Ashtiani a murderer.
The airing of the TV confession is a sign that she could soon be executed, probably by hanging, our correspondent says.
It seems the Iranian officials are sending a tough message to Western media and human rights groups that if they interfere in Iranian affairs and cause embarrassment, it will be counter-productive, he adds.
Courtesy of the BBC:
Iranian state TV has aired what it says is a confession by a woman under threat of being stoned to death for adultery.
In the interview shown on Wednesday, Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani purportedly admits conspiring to murder her husband in 2005 and denounces her lawyer.
After an international outcry, Iranian officials temporarily halted her stoning sentence last month, but there are fears she will now be hanged.
The 43-year-old had said she was forced to confess to the charges of adultery.
In May 2006, a criminal court in East Azerbaijan province found Ms Ashtiani guilty of having had an "illicit relationship" with two men following the death of her husband. She was given 99 lashes.
But that September, during the trial of a man accused of murdering her husband, another court reopened an adultery case based on events that allegedly took place before her husband died.
Despite retracting a confession she said she had been forced to make under duress, Ms Ashtiani was convicted of "adultery while being married" and sentenced to death by stoning.
The mother-of-two's alleged confession to complicity in her husband's murder, which was made in Azeri and dubbed into Persian, was aired on one of the main state-run television channels.
There was no mention of the stoning sentence and the focus of the interview was moved away from the allegation of adultery.
The woman, whose face was pixelated, admitted her part in the 2005 killing, despite Ms Ashtiani having earlier told Western media that she had been acquitted of the charge.
She said her husband's cousin had told her he wanted to kill her husband, but that she had assumed this was a joke.
"Later I realised that he was a killer," the woman said.
One day the man had come to her house "with all the required equipment," she added.
"He had brought electric devices, wire and gloves. He then killed my husband by electrocuting him. He asked me before to send my children to their grandmother's house."
The woman also criticised Ms Ashtiani's lawyer, Mohammed Mostafaie, for interfering in the case.
"Why has he taken my case to the TV? Why has he disgraced me?"
Mr Mostafaie has fled Iran and is now seeking asylum in Norway.
Another of Ms Ashtiani's lawyers has said that she was tortured for two days in prison to force her to make her televised confession on Wednesday.
Ms Ashtiani had said she was forced to confess to the charges of adultery Human rights activists fear that she is now in danger of imminent execution.
The BBC's Tehran correspondent, Jon Leyne, says the Iranian authorities are clearly trying to move the focus away from the adultery charge and the stoning sentence, and to brand Ms Ashtiani a murderer.
The airing of the TV confession is a sign that she could soon be executed, probably by hanging, our correspondent says.
It seems the Iranian officials are sending a tough message to Western media and human rights groups that if they interfere in Iranian affairs and cause embarrassment, it will be counter-productive, he adds.
odyssey2200 said:
andy400 said:
Reminds me of a P J O'Rourke quote:
"Individually, Arabs are lovely people. Group them together, however, and throw in the Qu'ran, and they're as mad as a sock-drawer full of civet cats on acid."
"Individually, Arabs are lovely people. Group them together, however, and throw in the Qu'ran, and they're as mad as a sock-drawer full of civet cats on acid."
The PH "offended" will be along in a moment.
king civet lovers can take their specialist coffee and stick it up their aholes. 
Pesty said:
Its ok!
NASA will put an end to all this. Obama orders it
Obama’s new mission for NASA: Reach out to Muslim world
In a far-reaching restatement of goals for the nation’s space agency, NASA administrator Charles Bolden says President Obama has ordered him to pursue three new objectives
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/be...
Bye Bye America
Who fking voted for this guy.
Don't know; can't seem to find anyone.NASA will put an end to all this. Obama orders it
Obama’s new mission for NASA: Reach out to Muslim world
In a far-reaching restatement of goals for the nation’s space agency, NASA administrator Charles Bolden says President Obama has ordered him to pursue three new objectives
http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/blogs/be...
Bye Bye America
Who f
king voted for this guy.Edited by Pesty on Tuesday 6th July 15:19
The bottom line is that we need lots more atheist technocrats and an awful lot fewer godbothering peasants of any flavour.
It is not enlightened to pretend that superstition/religion is in any way credible, it deserves to be mocked.
We should not be permitting, let alone funding, faith schools.
It is not enlightened to pretend that superstition/religion is in any way credible, it deserves to be mocked.
We should not be permitting, let alone funding, faith schools.
Anyone see the programme about bride stealing in Chechnya last night? Young women's lives shattered by being snatched off the streets and then the usual religious misogyny used to coerce the victim into marriage, all done with the open support of the muslim clerics.
What a fking bunch of inbred, backward wkers the men of that country are. It was Borat all the way through. I see the Russians have imposed a young inbred thug as a puppet leader on that country. Borat as President, i tell you.
I fking hate religion!
What a f
king bunch of inbred, backward wkers the men of that country are. It was Borat all the way through. I see the Russians have imposed a young inbred thug as a puppet leader on that country. Borat as President, i tell you.I f
king hate religion!mybrainhurts said:
Mr_B said:
'Two men, said to be activists of the religious Popular Front organisation'
Behold, A Popular Front....
How does one get religious over this...?
Behold a real 'Power to the People' Popular Front!
I say bring back Wolfie Smith!
fluffnik said:
The bottom line is that we need lots more atheist technocrats and an awful lot fewer godbothering peasants of any flavour.
It is not enlightened to pretend that superstition/religion is in any way credible, it deserves to be mocked.
We should not be permitting, let alone funding, faith schools.
Spot on!It is not enlightened to pretend that superstition/religion is in any way credible, it deserves to be mocked.
We should not be permitting, let alone funding, faith schools.
heebeegeetee said:
Anyone see the programme about bride stealing in Chechnya last night? Young women's lives shattered by being snatched off the streets and then the usual religious misogyny used to coerce the victim into marriage, all done with the open support of the muslim clerics.
What a fking bunch of inbred, backward wkers the men of that country are. It was Borat all the way through. I see the Russians have imposed a young inbred thug as a puppet leader on that country. Borat as President, i tell you.
I fking hate religion!
Dawkins' series about faith schools etc. starting next week should keep the urine warm!What a f
king bunch of inbred, backward wkers the men of that country are. It was Borat all the way through. I see the Russians have imposed a young inbred thug as a puppet leader on that country. Borat as President, i tell you.I f
king hate religion!Edited by Lost_BMW on Thursday 12th August 22:10
Pesty said:
Lost_BMW said:
Dawkins' series about faith schools etc. starting next week should keep the urine warm!
That looks interesting.I did a virtual head shake when Blair was promoting them.
Lost_BMW said:
heebeegeetee said:
Anyone see the programme about bride stealing in Chechnya last night? Young women's lives shattered by being snatched off the streets and then the usual religious misogyny used to coerce the victim into marriage, all done with the open support of the muslim clerics.
What a fking bunch of inbred, backward wkers the men of that country are. It was Borat all the way through. I see the Russians have imposed a young inbred thug as a puppet leader on that country. Borat as President, i tell you.
I fking hate religion!
Dawkins' series about faith schools etc. starting next week should keep the urine warm!What a f
king bunch of inbred, backward wkers the men of that country are. It was Borat all the way through. I see the Russians have imposed a young inbred thug as a puppet leader on that country. Borat as President, i tell you.I f
king hate religion!Edited by Lost_BMW on Thursday 12th August 22:10
as the ones with the imaginary friend.He needs to be up against the wall with the others for his intollerant preachings.
Lost_BMW said:
I always wondered how much of his fervour was due to political correctness, how much to placating people who were likely antagonised by his foreign policy and how much to money. Of course he is a fanatic on top of any of that.
I thought the same things at teh time. I bit(lot) of both probably.DonkeyApple said:
But Dawkins is exactly the same kind of fanatical as the ones with the imaginary friend.
He needs to be up against the wall with the others for his intollerant preachings.
Maybe, but at least he doesn't promote the blind following of an unproven sky pixie so there is some difference. as the ones with the imaginary friend.He needs to be up against the wall with the others for his intollerant preachings.
Why should he/we be forced to be tolerant of fantasy when it affects our lives?
Lost_BMW said:
DonkeyApple said:
But Dawkins is exactly the same kind of fanatical as the ones with the imaginary friend.
He needs to be up against the wall with the others for his intollerant preachings.
Maybe, but at least he doesn't promote the blind following of an unproven sky pixie so there is some difference. as the ones with the imaginary friend.He needs to be up against the wall with the others for his intollerant preachings.
Why should he/we be forced to be tolerant of fantasy when it affects our lives?
But Dawkins has no proof for his religion either and yet rams it down everyone's throat like a mad mulha.
He is a fanatical believer in something that cannot be proven and travels around trying to get other people to sign up. HE is identical to any other fanatical buffoon.
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