N. Korea - will they , or won't they?

[Spiritual_Beggar]

http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/07/23/no...

N Korea has threaten physical response to the planned War Games between US & S.Korea forces, due to start on Sunday.


Unlike Iran, who like to talk a lot, N Korea has proven it is willing to back up it's talk with actions.

And, with the recent sinking of the S. Korean warship, which most believe N. Korea was responsible for, the tension between the two (or 3 inc. USA) is already pretty high.


So, more talk.....or a threat will a bit more substance?

[Tsippy]

I think it's more talk than anything else, they'll bully South Korea as they're evenly matched but I doubt they would want to drag the USA into their squabble as it is would become a lot more serious, and a fight they could not win.

People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West and I think that they would prefer peace as otherwise they'll have thousands of refugees fleeing into their country.

[KANEIT]

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

[Frankeh]

NK fires at the south using its stty artillery.

South uses its proper military and destroys actual important targets.

NK is a bit fked.

No one else does anything other than have stern words with both of them.

[Smiler.]

Most of the stuff in N Korea is fked. In parts of the country, people are starving.

The worst thing they could do in enter into any kind of conventional action with a duration of more than 5 minutes. I expect the sinking of the S Korean ship was due to an accident/misfire or something.

China is keen to distance themselves, even failing to align with the "lonewry" dictator on the fact they they actually started the Korean War by invading the south.

Sadly, like Iran, they only need one non-conventional strike for it to all kick off, and also like Iran, they have a narcissistic nutter in charge which at least one finger & some buttons.

I don't think the forthcoming exercise with the US is enough of an antagonism for escalation.

Then, wtf do I know

[Tsippy]

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

[Fittster]

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

Out of interest who would be buying US Bonds?

[KANEIT]

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

Just like that eh? With a click of your heels?!!!!! Not so easy in the real world.

[Flintstone]

Maybe they need to drop their practice of staring at each other across the 49th parallel and learn from India and Pakistan.


Border Guards

Edited by Flintstone on Friday 23 July 14:20

[Jon C]

Fittster said:

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

Out of interest who would be buying US Bonds?

[Tsippy]

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

Just like that eh? With a click of your heels?!!!!! Not so easy in the real world.

Who said it would happen in an instant? Anything of importance can be manufactured in the West, it just means that that rubber ducks will be in short supply for a while along with the other cheap tat coming out of China.

Although the manufacturing industry has taken a battering, it is more than capable of growing again.

[MX7]

Flintstone said:

Maybe they need to drop their practice of staring at each other across the 49th parallel and learn from India and Pakistan.


Border Guards

Edited by Flintstone on Friday 23 July 14:20

Brilliant. They look like birds doing a mating dance.

Nothing will happen. It would be suicide for NK if they did anything at the moment.

[J B L]

Frankeh said:

NK fires at the south using its stty artillery.

South uses its proper military and destroys actual important targets.

NK is a bit fked.

No one else does anything other than have stern words with both of them.

Seriously though. has NK got the potential to actually worry anybody. I kow they have a large army but do they actually have the material ressources to give them a chance or would it be a blood bath?

Or shall the West (and SK) be really worried about them?

[Timmy35]

Jon C said:

Fittster said:

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

Out of interest who would be buying US Bonds?

"I am sooooo wonely..."

[Frankeh]

J B L said:

Frankeh said:

NK fires at the south using its stty artillery.

South uses its proper military and destroys actual important targets.

NK is a bit fked.

No one else does anything other than have stern words with both of them.

Seriously though. has NK got the potential to actually worry anybody. I kow they have a large army but do they actually have the material ressources to give them a chance or would it be a blood bath?

Or shall the West (and SK) be really worried about them?

They just have a fkload of artillery aimed at SK. Enough to be scary.

[KANEIT]

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

Just like that eh? With a click of your heels?!!!!! Not so easy in the real world.

Who said it would happen in an instant? Anything of importance can be manufactured in the West, it just means that that rubber ducks will be in short supply for a while along with the other cheap tat coming out of China.

Although the manufacturing industry has taken a battering, it is more than capable of growing again.

You are funny!

[Timmy35]

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

China is convenient because it's cheap, if diplomatic ties were cut and they wanted to be arsey there could soon be plenty of manufacturing in the West again.

Just like that eh? With a click of your heels?!!!!! Not so easy in the real world.

Who said it would happen in an instant? Anything of importance can be manufactured in the West, it just means that that rubber ducks will be in short supply for a while along with the other cheap tat coming out of China.

Although the manufacturing industry has taken a battering, it is more than capable of growing again.

You are funny!

He's not wrong really, there are already examples of Chinese manufacturers basing there operations in the US not China, because unit costs are actually lower.

Although the East Coast cities are spectacular China isn't anywhere near as advanced as people think.

Also the manufacturing stats are rather flattered because much of what is "made in China" is actually components from the USA/ Japan shipped to China for manual assembly.

[Jimbeaux]

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

The West could buy elsewhere, albeit more expensive; China, however, cannot sell elsewhere to the extent they require to sustain growth.

[Jimbeaux]

J B L said:

Frankeh said:

NK fires at the south using its stty artillery.

South uses its proper military and destroys actual important targets.

NK is a bit fked.

No one else does anything other than have stern words with both of them.

Seriously though. has NK got the potential to actually worry anybody. I kow they have a large army but do they actually have the material ressources to give them a chance or would it be a blood bath?

Or shall the West (and SK) be really worried about them?

They could initially push in pretty far. As soon as they run out of fuel, water, ammunition, etc, they would be surrounded and killed from the air and artillery. The bulk of their forces would be lost inside of a week. All IMO of course. Logistics wins wars; check the Romans.

[KANEIT]

Jimbeaux said:

KANEIT said:

Tsippy said:

....People hint that China may help North Korea, however I have my doubts because their manufacturing is reliant on the West.....

And the West is reliant on their manufacturing? It's a 2 way thing now, China is no longer a slave to us.

The West could buy elsewhere, albeit more expensive; China, however, cannot sell elsewhere to the extent they require to sustain growth.

It's the ease, timescale and cost of setting up new production facilities, training workforces, setting up new supply chains that is in question though. It's that initial setup that manufacturers may not be able to afford and even if they can it will take time.