Speed camera cuts 'mean disaster'

Speed camera cuts 'mean disaster'

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sjn2004

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4,051 posts

237 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Who would dream up such a dumb headline, the BBC of course.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-10755509

"Campaigners have said it would be a "disaster" if council cuts in England and Wales mean speed cameras are scrapped.

Oxfordshire County Council is switching off its 72 speed cameras after funding for its road safety partnership was cut by £600,000."

Yippee!

Tycho

11,617 posts

273 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Well we will soon find out if they do save lives...


I don't think they do anything but raise money...

Edited by Tycho on Monday 26th July 01:08

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

207 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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The answer to all this is to have drivers properly trained to drive our roads.
Most are not, not able to consider or plan their driving.
Speed cameras were never the solution.
Intelligent traffic policing could be.

sjn2004

Original Poster:

4,051 posts

237 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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WhoseGeneration said:
The answer to all this is to have drivers properly trained to drive our roads.
Most are not, not able to consider or plan their driving.
Speed cameras were never the solution.
Intelligent traffic policing could be.
You mean like take those drivers off the motorways that do 45mph in the slow lane causing havoc for all the other users?

Tsippy

15,077 posts

169 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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And a cut to climate change funding means disaster too apparently, it's simply pressure-groups who make lots of money on the back of government lies worried about losing their positions in the money-making trough.

I cannot wait to see the camera-partnership workers trying to organise strikes and protests over their jobs hehe

WhoseGeneration

4,090 posts

207 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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sjn2004 said:
You mean like take those drivers off the motorways that do 45mph in the slow lane causing havoc for all the other users?
There is no "slow lane".
Go and read your copy of the Highway Code.
I would agree that properly trained drivers would not, except depending upon their vehicle (some large vehicles cannot drive any faster) and any particular specific circumstances, drive at such a speed on any motorway.
However, there is no minimum speed defined, perhaps there should be.
My problem is that, unlike past times I can remember, it has become hard to know the true limits. Time was, driving sensibly, a steady true 90mph on motorways, conditions permitting, would not have resulted in being "pulled" by a Traffic Officer observing such a speed.
That is intelligent policing.




supersingle

3,205 posts

219 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Here's your P45, don't let the door bang your arse on the way out.

Hahaha. Couldn't have happened to a more deserving bunch.

spaximus

4,231 posts

253 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Have a look on the Brake website and read the emotional letter sent to every council imloring them not to cut camera funding. The facts are without a cause there are lots of charities who will have to lose staff and funding comes from all over the place, again just look at the list of sponsers to the Brake casue where would they be without them.

We have had years of "Speed Kills" and "cameras are there not for profit but safety" and yet once the money is taken from the councils coffers there are now better ways.

Where would Brake rather makes cuts in the difficult times, oh yes, any where but what they are lobbying for.

heebeegeetee

28,761 posts

248 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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At least this issue certainly puts to bed the notion that road safety has become an almost purely money raising exercise.

An Oasis

123 posts

188 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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You watch the amount of mobile units rise...positioned not far from the soon to be dead camera!?sonar

chris watton

22,477 posts

260 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I have come to the conclusion that the BBC “news” is simply no more than a vessel from which every left wing lunatic advocacy and pressure group can air their views. The BBC long abandoned real news, it is merely left wing opinion.

Puggit

48,454 posts

248 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Swindon cut them last year - with no sudden rise in deaths/serious injuries.

motco

15,962 posts

246 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Bucks County Council have said they will probably follow Oxon and remove them as joint main contributors to TVSP

Puggit

48,454 posts

248 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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motco said:
Bucks County Council have said they will probably follow Oxon and remove them as joint main contributors to TVSP
Wokingham too

Mermaid

21,492 posts

171 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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We will be free....clap

Somewhatfoolish

4,365 posts

186 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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Woohoo

I hope these "campaigners" are genuinely distressed at the moment. Then they might have a taste of the misery they have caused to millions.

LeeME3

1,502 posts

226 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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A lot of the Lincs ones have been torched recently and, allegedly, there is no money to repair them so they're staying covered up.

oyster

12,604 posts

248 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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I thought the whole point of the SCPs was that they were self-funding? That the fines from cameras went to pay for the cameras and staff to run the SCPs?

If they were always being supported by other money then have we been lied to?

Puggit

48,454 posts

248 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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oyster said:
I thought the whole point of the SCPs was that they were self-funding? That the fines from cameras went to pay for the cameras and staff to run the SCPs?

If they were always being supported by other money then have we been lied to?
Labour changed the rules on funding fairly recently. They decided to ask the councils to carry on funding the SCPs, without letting the SCPs recycle the cash, but taking the cash directly back to government instead.

Weird...

GestapoWatch

1,385 posts

190 months

Monday 26th July 2010
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WhoseGeneration said:
The answer to all this is to have drivers properly trained to drive our roads.
Most are not, not able to consider or plan their driving.
Speed cameras were never the solution.
Intelligent traffic policing could be.
This yes

Many people are 'qualified' to drive i.e. they have a license - yet they are so horribly unaware of just what they are in control (or not!) of.

[Broken record]There is no camera to measure sheer incompetence and blatant inconsideration for the safety of others[/Broken record]

Wholesale changes to people's driving attitudes AND a test which truly proves this is needed.

But it won't...