California is FUBAR

[VX Foxy]

Arnie declares state of emergency:

"California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency over the state's finances on Wednesday, raising pressure on lawmakers to negotiate a state budget that closes a $19 billion shortfall."

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66R5FE201007...

California has/had the 8th largest economy in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California

Sorry if pea roast...

[JuniorD]

I saw him on TV just a minute ago asking me to come to California as there is a st load of paid work to be done. Presumably this work is not in the state sector otherwise that would be one hell of a mixed signal to be giving out.

[Muntu]

Maybe they should have elected Chris Christie instead of Arnie...

[deevlash]

they should sell some of the California girls to other countries. How much are we bidding for Katy Perry?

[Mr Dave]

deevlash said:

they should sell some of the California girls to other countries. How much are we bidding for Katy Perry?

Ill pay two grand to get her sent to Afghanista. And not in the safe military bases.

[Matt Black]

Mr Dave said:

deevlash said:

they should sell some of the California girls to other countries. How much are we bidding for Katy Perry?

Ill pay two grand to get her sent to Afghanista. And not in the safe military bases.

I'll double it!

[VxDuncan]

So a $19 billion annual shortfall is classed as a state of emergency? Admittedly our GDP is some 50% more than California, but our budget shortfall was $19.6 billion in June alone...
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=206

We're alot more fubar'd than California chaps.

Or to put it another way, we can't afford Katy Perry.

[RDMcG]

To be fair, he has been a pretty good Governor given that hand he had to play. The fact is, that the entitlements and state pensions are unsustainable. CA is not the land of milk and honey it was in the sixties. It is not the least state to be facing a fiscal crisis. Municipalities are in even worse shape.

[Fittster]

Shock, horror, politicians are greedy and useless:

"This week, Bloomberg reports one of the poorest areas in Los Angeles County, the City of Bell (population of 38,000), erupted in protest after word spread its city manager earns about $800,000 per year, or nearly twice the salary of the US president.

Exorbitant pay is a rampant problem in the pint-sized city, where the police chief earns almost $460,000 — more than the police chief of the City of Los Angeles (population of 3.8 million) — and council members make roughly $100,000 for the part-time work of meeting twice a month. This all takes place in a California city with a per-capita income of $24,800 in 2008. It’s yet another example of the wise and efficient allocation of taxpayer dollars… right."

http://dailyreckoning.com/city-manager-of-bell-ca-...

[Jimbeaux]

RDMcG said:

To be fair, he has been a pretty good Governor given that hand he had to play. The fact is, that the entitlements and state pensions are unsustainable. CA is not the land of milk and honey it was in the sixties. It is not the least state to be facing a fiscal crisis. Municipalities are in even worse shape.

Businesses are leaving there and heading to bordering states that have tax breaks and hiring incentives. You know, capitalism type "stuff". Cali's lefty paradise ways are biting them on the a$$.

[Jimbeaux]

Fittster said:

Shock, horror, politicians are greedy and useless:

"This week, Bloomberg reports one of the poorest areas in Los Angeles County, the City of Bell (population of 38,000), erupted in protest after word spread its city manager earns about $800,000 per year, or nearly twice the salary of the US president.

Exorbitant pay is a rampant problem in the pint-sized city, where the police chief earns almost $460,000 — more than the police chief of the City of Los Angeles (population of 3.8 million) — and council members make roughly $100,000 for the part-time work of meeting twice a month. This all takes place in a California city with a per-capita income of $24,800 in 2008. It’s yet another example of the wise and efficient allocation of taxpayer dollars… right."

http://dailyreckoning.com/city-manager-of-bell-ca-...

That has been on the news a good deal lately. What a circus full of damn idiots. The form of government adopted there allows those officials' saleries to be set by the council.....a council that meets twice a month and is paid $100,000.

[Marquis_Rex]

VxDuncan said:

So a $19 billion annual shortfall is classed as a state of emergency? Admittedly our GDP is some 50% more than California, but our budget shortfall was $19.6 billion in June alone...
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=206

We're alot more fubar'd than California chaps.

Or to put it another way, we can't afford Katy Perry.

You could try selling your chavvy Essex tarts, hoop earings,pulled back hair and all....

[JMGS4]

VX Foxy said:

Arnie declares state of emergency:
"California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger declared a state of emergency over the state's finances on Wednesday, raising pressure on lawmakers to negotiate a state budget that closes a $19 billion shortfall."
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE66R5FE201007...
California has/had the 8th largest economy in the world:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California
Sorry if pea roast...

Helps that the Californians refused last year to let their Arnie increase their taxes.... Hopefully California will fall into the Pacific and we'll be without all those no-hopers in LA and Hollywood... celebs? a bunch of whinging lefties...

[herewego]

Jimbeaux said:

RDMcG said:

To be fair, he has been a pretty good Governor given that hand he had to play. The fact is, that the entitlements and state pensions are unsustainable. CA is not the land of milk and honey it was in the sixties. It is not the least state to be facing a fiscal crisis. Municipalities are in even worse shape.

Businesses are leaving there and heading to bordering states that have tax breaks and hiring incentives. You know, capitalism type "stuff". Cali's lefty paradise ways are biting them on the a$$.

Is tax breaks and hiring incentives capitalism though, I would have thought it was interference?

[Jimbeaux]

herewego said:

Jimbeaux said:

RDMcG said:

To be fair, he has been a pretty good Governor given that hand he had to play. The fact is, that the entitlements and state pensions are unsustainable. CA is not the land of milk and honey it was in the sixties. It is not the least state to be facing a fiscal crisis. Municipalities are in even worse shape.

Businesses are leaving there and heading to bordering states that have tax breaks and hiring incentives. You know, capitalism type "stuff". Cali's lefty paradise ways are biting them on the a$$.

Is tax breaks and hiring incentives capitalism though, I would have thought it was interference?

Actually, it are more of government getting itself out of the way, as much as anything else. The hiring incentives are not payments but more in the line of more tax breaks.

[dxg]

Jimbeaux said:

Fittster said:

Shock, horror, politicians are greedy and useless:

"This week, Bloomberg reports one of the poorest areas in Los Angeles County, the City of Bell (population of 38,000), erupted in protest after word spread its city manager earns about $800,000 per year, or nearly twice the salary of the US president.

Exorbitant pay is a rampant problem in the pint-sized city, where the police chief earns almost $460,000 — more than the police chief of the City of Los Angeles (population of 3.8 million) — and council members make roughly $100,000 for the part-time work of meeting twice a month. This all takes place in a California city with a per-capita income of $24,800 in 2008. It’s yet another example of the wise and efficient allocation of taxpayer dollars… right."

http://dailyreckoning.com/city-manager-of-bell-ca-...

That has been on the news a good deal lately. What a circus full of damn idiots. The form of government adopted there allows those officials' saleries to be set by the council.....a council that meets twice a month and is paid $100,000.

You recall the "town councillor" character in the earlier series of Weeds? Say no more...

[Jimbeaux]

dxg said:

Jimbeaux said:

Fittster said:

Shock, horror, politicians are greedy and useless:

"This week, Bloomberg reports one of the poorest areas in Los Angeles County, the City of Bell (population of 38,000), erupted in protest after word spread its city manager earns about $800,000 per year, or nearly twice the salary of the US president.

Exorbitant pay is a rampant problem in the pint-sized city, where the police chief earns almost $460,000 — more than the police chief of the City of Los Angeles (population of 3.8 million) — and council members make roughly $100,000 for the part-time work of meeting twice a month. This all takes place in a California city with a per-capita income of $24,800 in 2008. It’s yet another example of the wise and efficient allocation of taxpayer dollars… right."

http://dailyreckoning.com/city-manager-of-bell-ca-...

That has been on the news a good deal lately. What a circus full of damn idiots. The form of government adopted there allows those officials' saleries to be set by the council.....a council that meets twice a month and is paid $100,000.

You recall the "town councillor" character in the earlier series of Weeds? Say no more...

I am not privy to that show here, but I can imagine.

[KaraK]

VxDuncan said:

So a $19 billion annual shortfall is classed as a state of emergency? Admittedly our GDP is some 50% more than California, but our budget shortfall was $19.6 billion in June alone...
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?id=206

We're alot more fubar'd than California chaps.

Or to put it another way, we can't afford Katy Perry.

Ahh but she is a California "gurl" rather than "girl" so by the low value PH places on those who can't spell surely that makes her cheaper and we can get her for the price of a Happy Meal?

[turbobloke]

herewego said:

Jimbeaux said:

RDMcG said:

To be fair, he has been a pretty good Governor given that hand he had to play. The fact is, that the entitlements and state pensions are unsustainable. CA is not the land of milk and honey it was in the sixties. It is not the least state to be facing a fiscal crisis. Municipalities are in even worse shape.

Businesses are leaving there and heading to bordering states that have tax breaks and hiring incentives. You know, capitalism type "stuff". Cali's lefty paradise ways are biting them on the a$$.

Is tax breaks and hiring incentives capitalism though, I would have thought it was interference?

Incentivising enterprise not good? Possibly some confusion here.

Removing barriers such as high taxation and red tape = removing bad things which is a good thing.

Leftyising interference increasing taxes and red tape = adding bad things which is a monumental screwup.

[turbobloke]

Jimbeaux said:

herewego said:

Jimbeaux said:

RDMcG said:

To be fair, he has been a pretty good Governor given that hand he had to play. The fact is, that the entitlements and state pensions are unsustainable. CA is not the land of milk and honey it was in the sixties. It is not the least state to be facing a fiscal crisis. Municipalities are in even worse shape.

Businesses are leaving there and heading to bordering states that have tax breaks and hiring incentives. You know, capitalism type "stuff". Cali's lefty paradise ways are biting them on the a$$.

Is tax breaks and hiring incentives capitalism though, I would have thought it was interference?

Actually, it are more of government getting itself out of the way, as much as anything else. The hiring incentives are not payments but more in the line of more tax breaks.

Absolutely. Removing interference is being described as interference