How would you deal with this young scamp?

[Greenwich Ross]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-1086562...

"Last year Judge Christopher Ball spared Bradley Wernham, 19, of Chelmsford, a prison sentence after he admitted more than 600 offences in Essex.

Instead he was given a flat and ordered to carry out unpaid work after he promised to change his ways.

Chelmsford Crown Court heard he tried to burgle another house months later."

Dang - didn't see that coming

[off_again]

Prolific or not - 5 years for burglary - thats a bit stiff. Good news for people of Essex though. No one deserves to be burgled.

[Burnham]

Of course he robbed a house again - how is he expected to pay for his smack if he's being forced to work for nothing?

[Cock Womble 7]

off_again said:

5 years for burglary - thats a bit stiff.

After 600 offences?

Is it fk. Should have been ten years.

[snowy slopes]

Not that i agree with muslims normally, but isnt it one of the muslim countrys where they cut your hand of for stealing? If it is, then maybe we should cut both of his hands off, then see if he can nick anything

[V8mate]

Burnham said:

Of course he robbed a house again - how is he expected to pay for his smack if he's being forced to work for nothing?

Actually... serious question time:

How much does unpaid community service pay?

Or do you get an exemption from 'looking for work' so you can still collect your dole?

[cal72]

Sign him up and ship him out.

[Adenauer]

V8mate said:

How much does unpaid community service pay?

Huh?

[monthefish]

off_again said:

Prolific or not - 5 years for burglary - thats a bit stiff.

Not at all.

It's not like you can accidentally commit burglary. It's a sh!tty thing to do and perhaps if penalties were a bit stiffer ther would be less of it.
I take you've never been burgled?

[Neil H]

Grind him up and use as fertiliser. Much more use to society.

[Morningside]

snowy slopes said:

Not that i agree with muslims normally, but isnt it one of the muslim countrys where they cut your hand of for stealing? If it is, then maybe we should cut both of his hands off, then see if he can nick anything

Or better still, cut off his head so he cannot even THINK about stealing anything.

"Given a flat" - Thats where they went wrong. Some people are beyond help.

[Cotty]

Chain to the flat between the hours of 7pm and 7am

[silverMX]

cal72 said:

Sign him up and ship him out.

Sign him up to what and ship him out where..?

The Forces can't abide thieves and noone wants to be in a firefight next to an untrustworthy person.

Civvy street can fkin keep it!

[Cock Womble 7]

Cotty said:

Chain to the flat between the hours of 7pm and 7pm

EFA.

[off_again]

Cock Womble 7 said:

off_again said:

5 years for burglary - thats a bit stiff.

After 600 offences?

Is it fk. Should have been ten years.

Woah there - I am simply saying that given the current situation with our prisons and what happens with burglary criminals, this is a relatively steep sentence. I understand that the guidelines are around the 4-5 year mark for repeat offenders, but it only gets tougher when there are particular extenuating circumstances (such as violence etc). Clearly I know nothing of the facts here, but I am merely making the point that its actually uncommon to see this level of sentencing - its usually less.

So, I am not suggesting that it should be less. As a victim of crime, I would go a lot further, but merely making an observation. Not a suggestion on being lenient.

[Big E 118]

Unbelieveable, this country and it leaniency towards crime just shock me sometimes.

This kid will get out of prison with a few new tricks and be committing crime within days. Lets hope he breaks into the wrong persons house next time and ends up as landfill.

[Timmy35]

cal72 said:

Sign him up and ship him out.

couldn't we have a treaty with the Democratic Republic of Congo, we give them £20,000 to take the scrote, we give the scrote £10,000 to be getting along with, confiscate his passport, and off he goes? Best of luck burgling houses in the DCR.

[WorAl]

Cock Womble 7 said:

off_again said:

5 years for burglary - thats a bit stiff.

After 600 offences?

Is it fk. Should have been ten years.

Should have cut his fking fingers off.

[BeansOnToast]

Send him to Afghanistan - give our boys some target practice

[Buzz word]

A guy I know always seems to get in trouble. As a kid in school he would always be sent out or told off. As an adult he has got a few convictions for criminal dammage and other petty things. After his latest charge he got a bit of comunity service. He thought that was great as it's the first time he has had a punishment that wasn't a telling off, saying sorry or a fine. He actually said " even when I was young I worked out I could do whatever I wanted then I just had to say sorry". It seems that attitude went unchecked until he got this comunity service.

I think thats the mentality you are fighting. That guy with his petty crimes knows all he has to do is say sorry and he can go and do it all again tomorrow. I dont think people find a motivation to change until you are forced to. Rewarding the guy with a flat for stealing is priceless. I bet he fed the judge some brilliant lines.