Dave is middle class???
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tting bricks. Is that middle class or upper class? 
TuxRacer said:
Fittster said:
TuxRacer said:
I couldn't care less where he went to school, I don't see how it's got anything to do with it.
You don't see it as a politician trying to spin his back ground so he appears to share a back ground more in common with the electorate? He might be doing everything right but clearly his background isn't quite the same as the man on the clapham omnibus, unless it's the night run and has been picking up the bullingdon club after a heavy night.What bothers me more is this tired class war crap that's totally irrelevant. It doesn't matter to me if the guy thinks he's upper, middle, lower or class 8A. That and the idea that someone can be downtrodden because their parents scrimped, saved and sacrificed much to put their child through the best education they could. Which admittedly won't apply to Cameron, but it will to some of the people he went to school with.
I thought class wasn't defined by money - you know, working class boy makes good, becomes a millionaire but still claims to be working class.
Outdated concepts nowadays, especially with the decline of traditional manual labour (pits, shipyards, etc). I don't know what "middle class" means. I do find that people who try to refer to the class of others always seem to see any class but the one they perceive themselves to be in as lesser in someway. I've never yet found anyone who cares about this stuff who thinks their own class isn't the best class to be.
Outdated concepts nowadays, especially with the decline of traditional manual labour (pits, shipyards, etc). I don't know what "middle class" means. I do find that people who try to refer to the class of others always seem to see any class but the one they perceive themselves to be in as lesser in someway. I've never yet found anyone who cares about this stuff who thinks their own class isn't the best class to be.
otolith said:
Last time I looked, Blair's old school was only a couple of grand a year cheaper than Cameron's - why is it suddenly a big deal when a Conservative is in #10?
Could that have something to do with his comment 'Sam and I are part of the sharp-elbowed middle classes'. As reported in the news media today and as in the OP.If nothing else he's given a great boost to the cloyingly aspirational types who've a habit of claiming that because they've got the corner plot on their Barratt estate they're part of a middle class that extends right to the Prime Minister (said with an identifiable exclamation mark), but all the people on the estate who only have the normal plot, well they're clearly working class and can no doubt trace their ancestry down through a history of workhouse dodgers and petty thieves.
Really I think the whole idea of the class system keeled over and choked its last as anything meaningful when undeniably middle-class Guardian readers started unironically trying to one-up each other about how "working class" they were on the newspaper's online comments section.
I wonder what ACORN type Dave thinks he is?
Really I think the whole idea of the class system keeled over and choked its last as anything meaningful when undeniably middle-class Guardian readers started unironically trying to one-up each other about how "working class" they were on the newspaper's online comments section.
I wonder what ACORN type Dave thinks he is?
TuxRacer said:
Lost_BMW said:
TuxRacer said:
I'm not convinced he said it as spin. .
The very definition of naive.If you don't think a politician (yes, even 'DC' is thus) didn't spin that line for a purpose you must be remarkably open minded, or trusting.
colonel c said:
otolith said:
Last time I looked, Blair's old school was only a couple of grand a year cheaper than Cameron's - why is it suddenly a big deal when a Conservative is in #10?
Could that have something to do with his comment 'Sam and I are part of the sharp-elbowed middle classes'. As reported in the news media today and as in the OP.
Fittster said:
OnTheOverrun said:
Oh goody, another failed Fittster thread. 
Ahh, my person idiot is back, how was your day at the scope center? 
OnTheOverrun said:
You know I actually prefer your schoolyard abuse to your tedious and didactic diatribes (look those words up while you look up how to spell 'centre') as at least you write those yourself instead of cutting and pasting magazine articles and passing them off as your own work. I'm lucky enough to have a reasonable intellect so I don't need to stoop to your levels, I can simply continue to wonder why you think you need to educate an entire forum of people who appear to be better educated than you. . . . . . .
^^Pro post seal of approval.
Dave would certainly be considered upper-class to most people on this planet, but im aware this is Piston Heads and a bit of a bizarro land.
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