Green taxes for business being introduced...

Green taxes for business being introduced...

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tybo

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2,284 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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From next month.

See, you can argue all you want about the issue. But the truth is: we're all going to start paying for it anyway.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/tax...

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Crazy politics, crazy laws, crazy system.

Now remind me just when the double dip is going to kick in???

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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But But But we have a new government in and they are different!

tybo

Original Poster:

2,284 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Pesty said:
But But But we have a new government in and they are different!
Meet the new boss, same as....

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Nobody fooled me wink

Tsippy

15,077 posts

170 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Fantastic idea! So when a company that has struggled for work for several months receives a big contract requiring overtime, they'll have to decline it because they'll be fined for using too much tax-gas energy rolleyes

Sadly this Green movement joke is becoming increasingly serious and will have serious impacts upon the economy, I just fail to see how it has continued for so long? furious

The tt of an MP for my area (Tory) simply told me when asking why the hell they would continue with this idea "Well if companies cannot cut their energy usage, they'll make way for new Green companies" furious

Exactly the reason that I refused to vote for the Tories furious


tybo

Original Poster:

2,284 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Pesty said:
Nobody fooled me wink
I know. wink

tybo

Original Poster:

2,284 posts

218 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Tsippy said:
Exactly the reason that I refused to vote for the Tories furious
Whatever the party, this would happen.

nelly1

5,630 posts

232 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Guam said:
We are sleepwalking running flat-out into sheer lunacy!!!
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remedy

1,661 posts

192 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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I posted about this on another thread. Thankfully smaller companies seem exempt at the moment as the threshold is over 6000MWH - of which my company (aerospace engineering so lots of machinery and mandatory lighting) with 110 people only uses just over 1000Mwh.

Anyone care to place a bet on how long it takes before the threshold hits domestic levels?

But... this tax puports to 'help' companies find an incentive to become more energy efficient - if they pay HMG £1290 a year for the priviledge. Great thumbup

Note though, when this was first publicised in November last year (when I received the first letter) it was all about carbon reduction. That has taken a seat slightly further down the bus and now 'energy efficiency' sits up front. Make of that what you will?

Doesn't make it any less of a joke when we need to encourage business and growth rather than selling plant food gas allowances. Another way of 'printing money' I guess.

12gauge

1,274 posts

175 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Wonder if businesses they compete with in Asia will have to pay identical levies? I doubt it somehow.

If not, there's no green case for it, there is, however, an economic case against it. Once again, govt doing all it can to bankrupt this nation.

dandarez

13,297 posts

284 months

Wednesday 11th August 2010
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Pssss. Got any carbon credits?

The new world order is just round the corner.


ShadownINja

76,440 posts

283 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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dandarez said:
Pssss. Got any carbon credits?

The new world order is just round the corner.
http://www.igindex.co.uk/spread-betting/carbon-emissions.html

Have fun!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

256 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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This is fraud...

mondeoman

11,430 posts

267 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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mybrainhurts said:
This is fraud...
no, this is politics .... frown

Tsippy

15,077 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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tybo said:
Tsippy said:
Exactly the reason that I refused to vote for the Tories furious
Whatever the party, this would happen.
UKIP were against the green lunacy frown

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

245 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Tsippy said:
tybo said:
Tsippy said:
Exactly the reason that I refused to vote for the Tories furious
Whatever the party, this would happen.
UKIP were against the green lunacy frown
But never stood a chance of doing anything other than split the right leaning vote.

{rock} < electorate> {hard place}

Tsippy

15,077 posts

170 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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And that was the problem, I knew it was a wasted vote as so many people vote in a football fan style ie "I support Labour because my friends and family do, but know nothing about them". With the main three parties continuing to bang the green movement drum I cannot see this lunacy ever ending :'(


tybo

Original Poster:

2,284 posts

218 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Tsippy said:
And that was the problem, I knew it was a wasted vote as so many people vote in a football fan style ie "I support Labour because my friends and family do, but know nothing about them". With the main three parties continuing to bang the green movement drum I cannot see this lunacy ever ending :'(
No point in voting then, is there? wink

cazzer

8,883 posts

249 months

Thursday 12th August 2010
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Although if the minimum a company would pay is 38k with most of the eligable companies paying a lot more...
Surely it would be more economic for them to pay the maxumum 45k fine every year and say fk off smile