BBC Boss ADMITS left bias!!!

[turbobloke]

It's not an even split along political fault lines - not by a long, long way.

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/danielhannan/100...

http://www.redpepper.org.uk/Green-is-the-new-red

[12gauge]

MX7 said:

The difference between the BBC and other media outlets is that the BBC has a charter which requires them to remain neutral. Other organisations don't.

Who decides what 'neutral' is?

Do you think such a thing exists?

[blindswelledrat]

turbobloke said:

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The BBC are nowhere near neutral. Giving lefties a grilling (sometimes) is only part of the point, the other part being that they often appear on radio and TV unopposed.

Instances of bias from BBC presenters are everywhere, one of the best being James Naughtie pre-2005 election on the Radio 4 'Toady' prog giving a good grilling to Ed Balls by asking “If we win the election, does Gordon Brown remain Chancellor?”


BBC admits Labour bias on Newsnight broadcast.....

The BBC has a strong Labour bias, puts on too many repeats and dumbed down.....

Is the BBC institutionally biased? Can you trust the BBC.....

This bias and cultural Marxism has become blatant, to the point where many BBC employees don't even feel the need to conceal their agenda.....


http://www.labour-watch.com/bbcbias.htm

http://www.bbccharterreview.org.uk/gp_responses/A/...

http://www.culturewars.org.uk/2007-03/bbcbias.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

Those are pretty lame links to support your contention that they are nowhere near biased. In fact they are just irrelevant. You may has well have just scribbled "The BBC support labour" and linked to it somehow as evidence

[turbobloke]

blindswelledrat said:

turbobloke said:

The BBC are nowhere near neutral. Giving lefties a grilling (sometimes) is only part of the point, the other part being that they often appear on radio and TV unopposed.

Instances of bias from BBC presenters are everywhere, one of the best being James Naughtie pre-2005 election on the Radio 4 'Toady' prog giving a good grilling to Ed Balls by asking “If we win the election, does Gordon Brown remain Chancellor?”


BBC admits Labour bias on Newsnight broadcast.....

The BBC has a strong Labour bias, puts on too many repeats and dumbed down.....

Is the BBC institutionally biased? Can you trust the BBC.....

This bias and cultural Marxism has become blatant, to the point where many BBC employees don't even feel the need to conceal their agenda.....


http://www.labour-watch.com/bbcbias.htm

http://www.bbccharterreview.org.uk/gp_responses/A/...

http://www.culturewars.org.uk/2007-03/bbcbias.htm

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/art...

Those are pretty lame links to support your contention that they are nowhere near biased. In fact they are just irrelevant. You may has well have just scribbled "The BBC support labour" and linked to it somehow as evidence

To which can be added in your opinion. Also I suspect you meant to say that my contention was about the BBC being 'nowhere near neutral'.

As it happens the only evidence needed to identify the obvious and significant left-leaning bias in BBC presenters and a lot of their news and current affairs programming content is to watch and listen to it.

[thinfourth2]

limpsfield said:

Whenever these threads come up - or ones questioning the licence fee - it seems the only programme the protagonists are watching is newsround or some such.

Listen to Radio 4, you reactionary Wail-ers.

They don't know about radio 4

They only watch BBC1 and listen to that fat tt moyles on radio 1

[Hedders]

Who is the target audience of radio 4? Isn't that the station that plays the archers and stuff like that??

[thinfourth2]

Hedders said:

Who is the target audience of radio 4? Isn't that the station that plays the archers and stuff like that??

And the target audience of BBC 1 is basically morons

If you want to see how dumbed down the beeb can get listen to the news on Radio 1 it makes newsround seem indepth

[turbobloke]

thinfourth2 said:

limpsfield said:

Whenever these threads come up - or ones questioning the licence fee - it seems the only programme the protagonists are watching is newsround or some such.

Listen to Radio 4, you reactionary Wail-ers.

They don't know about radio 4

They only watch BBC1 and listen to that fat tt moyles on radio 1

Naughtie and Co are R4 Toady prog fodder and they're as bad as anyone - as per Naughtie's 'we' comment when grilling (not) Ed Balls a few years back.

The BBC ackmowledge their own bias, how others fail to see it is absurd.

Reading many newspapers is a good thing, tabloids as well as broadsheets which the Mail was for years. Exercising judgement seems to be the hard part, as per the groupthink comments on here apparently dismissing the entire content of a newspaper for no other reason than to conform, which is an absurd and childish notion. Ray Massey has written some excellent motoring content for the Mail, content which is very much in keeping with the rational perspectives seen here on this supposedly car enthusiasts' forum. If anybody is incapable of distinguishing between a Lady Di Special and Ray Massey's columns, at least the school holidays are over so with luck continuing education may help.

[The real Apache]

thinfourth2 said:

limpsfield said:

Whenever these threads come up - or ones questioning the licence fee - it seems the only programme the protagonists are watching is newsround or some such.

Listen to Radio 4, you reactionary Wail-ers.

They don't know about radio 4

They only watch BBC1 and listen to that fat tt moyles on radio 1

Who is this 'they' oh enlightened ones? don't lump me in with your inaccurate generalisation, R4 is merely a slightly high brow version of the red top styled programmes to make you psuedo intellectuals think you're better informed, sorry.
This, seemingly, startling admission is the BBCs begrudged awakening to their
new paymaster, nowt else.

[mybrainhurts]

Parrot of Doom said:

You're talking out of your arse. There's an obvious left-leaning in the BBC's staff, but that isn't through some kind of recruitment policy, its because most people in the arts are that way inclined.

Is it false that all their recruitment ads go in the Guardian...?

[turbobloke]

The real Apache said:

thinfourth2 said:

limpsfield said:

Whenever these threads come up - or ones questioning the licence fee - it seems the only programme the protagonists are watching is newsround or some such.

Listen to Radio 4, you reactionary Wail-ers.

They don't know about radio 4

They only watch BBC1 and listen to that fat tt moyles on radio 1

Who is this 'they' oh enlightened ones? don't lump me in with your inaccurate generalisation, R4 is merely a slightly high brow version of the red top styled programmes to make you psuedo intellectuals think you're better informed, sorry.
This, seemingly, startling admission is the BBCs begrudged awakening to their
new paymaster, nowt else.

Exactly.

Having been a regular listener to R4 for years and noting the almost incessant bias, as per Newsnight as per Marr and not forgetting 'Toenails' (so far up Labour's ass that's all anybody can see) I've also been interviewed on PM by the R4 people and can confirm it's not absent in the small talk either.

BBC senior management have in the recent past been little more than Labour Supporters On-Air.

[Hedders]

thinfourth2 said:

Hedders said:

Who is the target audience of radio 4? Isn't that the station that plays the archers and stuff like that??

And the target audience of BBC 1 is basically morons

If you want to see how dumbed down the beeb can get listen to the news on Radio 1 it makes newsround seem indepth

So they broadcast different news on different BBC channels? I had no idea. I don't really listen to a great deal of BBC radio, come to thnk of it i really don't watch much BBC either these days, certainly not the news

[limpsfield]

Hedders said:

Who is the target audience of radio 4? Isn't that the station that plays the archers and stuff like that??

oh dear.

You should definitely stick to the Mail.

Whatever you do, don't listen to radio 4 between 6 and 9 in the morning, or 5 and 6 in the evening.

Your mind will literally explode. Literally.

[Hedders]

limpsfield said:

Hedders said:

Who is the target audience of radio 4? Isn't that the station that plays the archers and stuff like that??

oh dear.

You should definitely stick to the Mail.

Because i don't listen to radio 4, i must be a Daily Mail reader?

Fair enough!

[glazbagun]

Fittster said:

glazbagun said:

Total non-story. Also: fk the Daily Mail. I'm not a fan of BBC news, but I'll take their BS over the Wails anyday.

You have a choice about the Daily Mail but not the BBC.

For most, I guess, but funnily enough I havent owned a TV in years and have thus paid no licence. As a result I find I have much more exposure to the Daily Mail (through here) and the Metro (from when I'm on the bus/train and need something to do with my hands) than the Beeb.

[JMGS4]

andymadmak said:

The question is, does the bias persist today? And the answer to that, by any rational analysis of how the news is presented, where the emphasis is placed, how politicians of all parties are cross examinded (and not just on the primary questions but also on the follow ups and the levels of interruptions) is that the BBC is still very much left leaning, but is getting rather better at camoflaging it.

YES the bias persists, just see the 1 hour programme on a failed PM bLIAR where marr might just as wel been giving him a BJ with all his sycophancy, and recent interviews of Minigland about foreign policy when the foreign minister wasn't even interviewed. Minigland has to get out of his nappies before he tries o comment on anything apart from his nursery school class.

And family experience here. My eldest daughter was interviewed 4 years ago for a translators job at the Beeb (God knows they need translators, it seems half of them are illiterate or bargain basement yokels nowadays). She speaks 5 languages fluently (3 MAs and a BSc) and another 3 well. One of the first questions asked was what newspapers she reads and which union she would be joining if/when she got the job. Both these questions were so obviously left slanted that she said she'd prefer to get a job where she wasn't politically vetted before she even got the job.

[Colonial]

Parrot of Doom said:

Don said:

What? Whaaat? Andrew Marr, I mean, come ON! Really?

What? Whaat? Andrew Neil, I mean, come ON! Really?

Bugger me. Now you are naming me as the source of bias in the British media?

That's a bit unfair. I don't even work in media OR in the UK.

[turbobloke]

JMGS4 said:

andymadmak said:

The question is, does the bias persist today? And the answer to that, by any rational analysis of how the news is presented, where the emphasis is placed, how politicians of all parties are cross examinded (and not just on the primary questions but also on the follow ups and the levels of interruptions) is that the BBC is still very much left leaning, but is getting rather better at camoflaging it.

YES the bias persists, just see the 1 hour programme on a failed PM bLIAR where marr might just as wel been giving him a BJ with all his sycophancy, and recent interviews of Minigland about foreign policy when the foreign minister wasn't even interviewed. Minigland has to get out of his nappies before he tries o comment on anything apart from his nursery school class.

And family experience here. My eldest daughter was interviewed 4 years ago for a translators job at the Beeb (God knows they need translators, it seems half of them are illiterate or bargain basement yokels nowadays). She speaks 5 languages fluently (3 MAs and a BSc) and another 3 well. One of the first questions asked was what newspapers she reads and which union she would be joining if/when she got the job. Both these questions were so obviously left slanted that she said she'd prefer to get a job where she wasn't politically vetted before she even got the job.

The appointments process as a cloning technique has propagated the factors mentioned in this 2007 article from a former BBC media-liberal.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article22...

Repetition over the last 15 years has made for an effect that's now immediately visible given that the BBC has stuffed itself to the gunwales with left leaning seniors and juniors. The disgraceful techniques mentioned in the article - e.g. achieving 'balance' by pitting the most convincing and charismatic pro-BBC-viewpoint politician against their most notably bigoted opponent - have been developed and embedded to such an extent that perhaps those claiming risibly that the BBC isn't politically biased to the left are immersed in the same culture and regard it as normal.

Of the same vintage: The loneliest job in Britian is being a Conservative at the BBC

"For three decades I was that rare breed - a Conservative at the BBC. In my time working on programmes such as Today and Breakfast News I couldn't have formed a cricket team from Tory sympathisers. As one producer put it, you feel almost part of an ethnic minority."

[oyster]

JMGS4 said:

andymadmak said:

The question is, does the bias persist today? And the answer to that, by any rational analysis of how the news is presented, where the emphasis is placed, how politicians of all parties are cross examinded (and not just on the primary questions but also on the follow ups and the levels of interruptions) is that the BBC is still very much left leaning, but is getting rather better at camoflaging it.

YES the bias persists, just see the 1 hour programme on a failed PM bLIAR where marr might just as wel been giving him a BJ with all his sycophancy, and recent interviews of Minigland about foreign policy when the foreign minister wasn't even interviewed. Minigland has to get out of his nappies before he tries o comment on anything apart from his nursery school class.

And family experience here. My eldest daughter was interviewed 4 years ago for a translators job at the Beeb (God knows they need translators, it seems half of them are illiterate or bargain basement yokels nowadays). She speaks 5 languages fluently (3 MAs and a BSc) and another 3 well. One of the first questions asked was what newspapers she reads and which union she would be joining if/when she got the job. Both these questions were so obviously left slanted that she said she'd prefer to get a job where she wasn't politically vetted before she even got the job.

I remember Andrew Marr interviewing Sir John Major recently and he had a very easy time. Most former-PMs do.

Didn't Gordon Brown get a bit of a mauling from Andrew Marr a few months before the election? Where he accused GB of being a 'mental'.

[Mojocvh]

Funnily enough just had my bbc tax demand flop through the letterbox this morning.......................