burn a koran day

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Hedders

24,460 posts

248 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Bing o said:
elster said:
One religion disagrees with the other so lets burn all their religious texts.

Of course it was the book that had something to do with 11/9...no wait...it was extremists.
I thought it was the CIA?




(retreats into concrete bunker)
So long as it wasn't the bunker in WTC7, you should be safe hehe

Don

28,377 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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TheEnd said:
Bad news all round,
not only is book burning the childish pointless crap like burning flags, it goes against a core Christian belief of forgiveness, and there's a good chance it'll stir up a hornet's nest and result in US deaths.
This.

It's yet another utterly unsanctioned instance of intolerance by extremists - in this case an intolerant US Christian cult rather than an intolerant extremist Islamic cult.

Largely the great and the good of most religions agree on a few points: like generally not being stty to one another. It's the crackpots one has to worry about.

Sadly since the advent of the internet it's been possible for crackpots the world over to get together, form alliances and do dumb things. Doesn't mean the internet is bad - but it does mean one has to be ever more vigilant with regard to crackpots...

jains15

1,013 posts

174 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Westy Pre-Lit said:
The real Apache said:
This idiot and his followers
You see, you call him an idiot, but all he and his followers have done so far have said they will do something. We now have people in power reacting to what they have been saying, news flashing all around the world and nutters burning things.

They now have half the world looking at their church and will no doubt have a full house at their next meeting.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I find the reaction to a comment rather more worrying....who's the idiot/idiots ?



Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Wednesday 8th September 08:12
<Charlie Brooker>Good job it's definitely not a publicity stunt then</CB>

Westy you are right 1million per cent. It probably won't even happen, and if it does it'll be a reaction to the reaction of his comments. This guy who preaches in a crackpot church of fifty decided he needed more members and global exposure. So said he would burn the Koran and BINGO got the exposure. Job Done. As I mentioned Cahrlie Brooker made light of this in the wake of that islamic chap who went on the news saying all sorts of bks about sharia law and denouncing armed forces coming back from afgan. Didn't actually DO anything, but said a load of stuff and got on national news.

It is the reaction that's more worrying because the vatican, NATO, H Clinton all wading in ENSURES that Islamic people all around the world will know about it and some will get so hot under the collar god knows what they will do (I'm referring to extremists not normal Muslims). if the media/government just ignored these idiots they wouldn't get the exposure and these things wouldn't happen. And of course it get EVERYONE up in arms, heightening tensions between groups the world over, no good can come from it. And all because some crackpot in Retardsville,USA dared to utter something rediculous, the way these things snowball is scary.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Jackleman said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jackleman said:
More thick Americans at it, they complain about religious fanatics but yet they are the worst kind!
Yea, that's us. One tiny church in Florida is the center of our universe. At least they are being pounded on by most other churches as well as general citizenry. Try not to sound like an idiot wink

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 7th September 22:23
Sorry about my choice of language, I should have said "additional thick Americans at it".
About you trying not to be an idiot.....try a bit harder. wink

Edited by Jimbeaux on Wednesday 8th September 12:03

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Colonial said:
Jimbeaux said:
Disco_Dale said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jackleman said:
More thick Americans at it, they complain about religious fanatics but yet they are the worst kind!
Yea, that's us. One tiny church in Florida is the center of our universe. At least they are being pounded on by most other churches as well as general citizenry. Try not to sound like an idiot wink

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 7th September 22:23
Strange though, when one cleric or mad mullah in the Islamic world makes a similar outrageous statement/gesture and and countless uninformed, uneducated idiots agree with him those pesky Muslims are all out to get ya...

Same sh*t, different country.
That's one thing I love about the UK. We've kinda grown out of religeous hate mobs, for the most part

Can't have it both ways fella.
Off the mark again "fella". As I said, this idiot is getting pounded from countless directions. Sore a subject as it may be, we rarely see the majority of "good" Muslims doing the same to their small group of idiots. There, you brought it up.....fella.
That old chestnut. And to think I was agreeing with you there...

Every time some mad Muslim comes out with something here in Australia, basically every major Islamic cleric comes out on the attack. Says how bad what they are saying is etc etc

But it doesn't get reported in every media outlet. The Murdoch news organisations are the worst. They don't report that because it doesn't fit their view and the ideology they are pushing.

I haven't seen the "majority" of Christians comes out against this either. Just a few soundbites from a few people. Does that mean that the majority in the US support him? Of course not. It just means that like most normal Muslims they are going about their daily business, trying to distance themselves from this lunatic.
Fair points then.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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peterpeter said:
Jimbeaux said:
stitched said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jackleman said:
More thick Americans at it, they complain about religious fanatics but yet they are the worst kind!
Yea, that's us. One tiny church in Florida is the center of our universe. At least they are being pounded on by most other churches as well as general citizenry. Try not to sound like an idiot wink

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 7th September 22:23
You must admit Jim, there are a lot of people in your country whose views are influenced by religion?
Absolutely true. Fortunately, that influnce extends to extremely few the desire to kill, maime, behead, or book burn against those who disagree.
of course carpet bombing, laser missiles and daisycutting people who disagree with you is just so much more civilized isn't it?

especially when its the wrong country.-

still you've god Blair (I mean God) as your friend- (you know, the chap you like and thought was right all the way through his campaign of mass murder and terrorist recruitment.)
How proud you must be, and how much you must be loving his book.
A bit of a rambling post huh Peter? wink I have not read Blair's book.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Alfa numeric said:
I wonder how they would react if I set up a bonfire next to them and started feeling it bibles?
Good point.

peterpeter

6,437 posts

258 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Jimbeaux said:
peterpeter said:
Jimbeaux said:
stitched said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jackleman said:
More thick Americans at it, they complain about religious fanatics but yet they are the worst kind!
Yea, that's us. One tiny church in Florida is the center of our universe. At least they are being pounded on by most other churches as well as general citizenry. Try not to sound like an idiot wink

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 7th September 22:23
You must admit Jim, there are a lot of people in your country whose views are influenced by religion?
Absolutely true. Fortunately, that influnce extends to extremely few the desire to kill, maime, behead, or book burn against those who disagree.
of course carpet bombing, laser missiles and daisycutting people who disagree with you is just so much more civilized isn't it?

especially when its the wrong country.-

still you've god Blair (I mean God) as your friend- (you know, the chap you like and thought was right all the way through his campaign of mass murder and terrorist recruitment.)
How proud you must be, and how much you must be loving his book.
A bit of a rambling post huh Peter? wink I have not read Blair's book.
cmon jim, you know its true.

planetdave

9,921 posts

254 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Where's the ATF when you need them?

They did a bang (pun intended) up job last time.

rudecherub

1,997 posts

167 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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Jimbeaux said:
Alfa numeric said:
I wonder how they would react if I set up a bonfire next to them and started feeling it bibles?
Good point.
I dare say he wouldn't like it much, but then again Christians generally, can't speak for this sects or individual, have a fairly laissez faire attitude to the Bible - in the sense that they don't treat the physical print and paper as holy in it self, it's just a book.

Whereas the tradition in Islam is to treat the Koran as holy in itself, so yeah, this is an outright attack.

Problem is Christians - especially those living under Sharia law don't need this kind of support, they are already in many places being persecuted to the point of being murdered as it is.

Also as the murder of Karen Woo demonstrates Ilamists don't differentiate between Western secular culture and Christendom, to them it's one in the same.

The real Apache

39,731 posts

285 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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jains15 said:
Westy Pre-Lit said:
The real Apache said:
This idiot and his followers
You see, you call him an idiot, but all he and his followers have done so far have said they will do something. We now have people in power reacting to what they have been saying, news flashing all around the world and nutters burning things.

They now have half the world looking at their church and will no doubt have a full house at their next meeting.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I find the reaction to a comment rather more worrying....who's the idiot/idiots ?



Edited by Westy Pre-Lit on Wednesday 8th September 08:12
<Charlie Brooker>Good job it's definitely not a publicity stunt then</CB>

Westy you are right 1million per cent. It probably won't even happen, and if it does it'll be a reaction to the reaction of his comments. This guy who preaches in a crackpot church of fifty decided he needed more members and global exposure. So said he would burn the Koran and BINGO got the exposure. Job Done. As I mentioned Cahrlie Brooker made light of this in the wake of that islamic chap who went on the news saying all sorts of bks about sharia law and denouncing armed forces coming back from afgan. Didn't actually DO anything, but said a load of stuff and got on national news.

It is the reaction that's more worrying because the vatican, NATO, H Clinton all wading in ENSURES that Islamic people all around the world will know about it and some will get so hot under the collar god knows what they will do (I'm referring to extremists not normal Muslims). if the media/government just ignored these idiots they wouldn't get the exposure and these things wouldn't happen. And of course it get EVERYONE up in arms, heightening tensions between groups the world over, no good can come from it. And all because some crackpot in Retardsville,USA dared to utter something rediculous, the way these things snowball is scary.
As I said already, if you're both righ, it's a hell of a gamble, he might get so much publicity his church will get firebombed or something

Bullett

10,889 posts

185 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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It might work as a publicity stunt the other way round.

But lets face Christian nutters are not currently in vogue for suicide bombing and saying such things even if you don't actually intend to do it is making you a big target for the nutters.

Jimbeaux

33,791 posts

232 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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peterpeter said:
Jimbeaux said:
peterpeter said:
Jimbeaux said:
stitched said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jackleman said:
More thick Americans at it, they complain about religious fanatics but yet they are the worst kind!
Yea, that's us. One tiny church in Florida is the center of our universe. At least they are being pounded on by most other churches as well as general citizenry. Try not to sound like an idiot wink

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 7th September 22:23
You must admit Jim, there are a lot of people in your country whose views are influenced by religion?
Absolutely true. Fortunately, that influnce extends to extremely few the desire to kill, maime, behead, or book burn against those who disagree.
of course carpet bombing, laser missiles and daisycutting people who disagree with you is just so much more civilized isn't it?

especially when its the wrong country.-

still you've god Blair (I mean God) as your friend- (you know, the chap you like and thought was right all the way through his campaign of mass murder and terrorist recruitment.)
How proud you must be, and how much you must be loving his book.
A bit of a rambling post huh Peter? wink I have not read Blair's book.
cmon jim, you know its true.
No, not entirely.

Crazy Torque

2,632 posts

206 months

Wednesday 8th September 2010
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peterpeter said:
Jimbeaux said:
peterpeter said:
Jimbeaux said:
stitched said:
Jimbeaux said:
Jackleman said:
More thick Americans at it, they complain about religious fanatics but yet they are the worst kind!
Yea, that's us. One tiny church in Florida is the center of our universe. At least they are being pounded on by most other churches as well as general citizenry. Try not to sound like an idiot wink

Edited by Jimbeaux on Tuesday 7th September 22:23
You must admit Jim, there are a lot of people in your country whose views are influenced by religion?
Absolutely true. Fortunately, that influnce extends to extremely few the desire to kill, maime, behead, or book burn against those who disagree.
of course carpet bombing, laser missiles and daisycutting people who disagree with you is just so much more civilized isn't it?

especially when its the wrong country.-

still you've god Blair (I mean God) as your friend- (you know, the chap you like and thought was right all the way through his campaign of mass murder and terrorist recruitment.)
How proud you must be, and how much you must be loving his book.
A bit of a rambling post huh Peter? wink I have not read Blair's book.
cmon jim, you know its true.
Blair was universally loved by all - well, almost all - so few against him that made no odds.

But now no-one likes him, even the stupid who voted for him once, and the even more stupid who voted for him twice. A bunch of simple minded fools the lot of them.

But there are a few, mostly on Pistonheads I think, who never liked him or voted for him.


(note: not everyone who voted for him was stupid, as many did so to take advantage of the special Labour offer of 'free home', 'free money' and 'work-free life' - nothing stupid there)

JMGS4

8,740 posts

271 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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Nutjob Terry Jones, pastor of Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, who wants to burn the Koran, convicted of fraud and misappropriation of a title (Dr) in Germany. Fined €3000,- and the present members of his church in Cologne are searching for the money from the kitty which is missing thanks to Nutjob.
Is this guy serious? Nutjob, telly pastor and crook!!!

Edited by JMGS4 on Thursday 9th September 07:58

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

187 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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JMGS4 said:
Nutjob Terry Jones, pastor of Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, who wants to burn the Koran, convicted of fraud and misappropriation of a title (Dr) in Germany. Fined €3000,- and the present members of his church in Cologne are searching for the money from the kitty which is missing thanks to Nutjob.
Is this guy serious? Nutjob, telly pastor and crook!!!

Edited by JMGS4 on Thursday 9th September 07:58
"Dougal, the money was just resting in my account."

clonmult

10,529 posts

210 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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HOGEPH said:
JMGS4 said:
Nutjob Terry Jones, pastor of Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, who wants to burn the Koran, convicted of fraud and misappropriation of a title (Dr) in Germany. Fined €3000,- and the present members of his church in Cologne are searching for the money from the kitty which is missing thanks to Nutjob.
Is this guy serious? Nutjob, telly pastor and crook!!!

Edited by JMGS4 on Thursday 9th September 07:58
"Dougal, the money was just resting in my account."
roflroflrofl

Very, very good.

We were out in Florida last week, and were on our way back from Busch Gardens on friday evening. Were somewhat surprised at the number of churches that seemed to be dotted all over the place. And on one street corner, a bunch of religious protesters, mumbling something about jews and zionists. Didn't care about them, but the vacant looks and badly written signs put them straight down as idiotic nutjobs.

Does America have more idiotic nutjobs than almost anywhere else in the world???

Colonial

13,553 posts

206 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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No. just a better cable tv and radio system.

rudecherub

1,997 posts

167 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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clonmult said:
Does America have more idiotic nutjobs than almost anywhere else in the world???
Remember we gave the world David Icke.

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Thursday 9th September 2010
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rudecherub said:
clonmult said:
Does America have more idiotic nutjobs than almost anywhere else in the world???
Remember we gave the world David Icke.
That we did, but that said America gifted us Jeff Rense and Alex Jones.