Your views on altering daylight hours
Poll: Your views on altering daylight hours
Total Members Polled: 248
Discussion
This discussion just irritates the hell out of me. You have the daylight you do because of geographical location.
If you get a lot of dark, as we do in Sweden you do different things to what you do in the summer when we have almost no dark and you make your working day the hours to suit what you do for a living.
Leave the bloody clock alone ffs. Clowns.
If you get a lot of dark, as we do in Sweden you do different things to what you do in the summer when we have almost no dark and you make your working day the hours to suit what you do for a living.
Leave the bloody clock alone ffs. Clowns.
i voted yes.
the winter commute to work is done almost in the dark already, and when i'm in the office i couldn't care less what its like outside. i'd like a little time in daylight when i get home.
also. the cost benefit to major industry would be immense. large users are charged double rates between 4-6pm [it differs, usually just for a 1hr period] due to people coming home and sticking all the lights & sockets on. i've worked in places where it's cheaper to shut down all production on a 600acre site than it is to pay the increased electic bill.
the winter commute to work is done almost in the dark already, and when i'm in the office i couldn't care less what its like outside. i'd like a little time in daylight when i get home.
also. the cost benefit to major industry would be immense. large users are charged double rates between 4-6pm [it differs, usually just for a 1hr period] due to people coming home and sticking all the lights & sockets on. i've worked in places where it's cheaper to shut down all production on a 600acre site than it is to pay the increased electic bill.
k i live in northern scotland its dark all the bloody timeEinion Yrth said:
We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.
+1. I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.
Johnnytheboy said:
Einion Yrth said:
We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.
+1. I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.
I saw a documentary about it - huge space-borne mirrors that redirect sunlight onto the Northern Hemisphere in winter allow crop growing all year round.
"Project Icarus" it was called.
It all went horribly wrong when it was hijacked by some North Korean geezer with diamonds in his face, who used it to try and fry an MI6 agent on a frozen lake by concentrating the beam of sunlight, and was then going to use it to destroy the South Korean forces along the de-militarised zone, allowing the North Koreans to invade.
Thankfully, there was a bit of a scuffle on a transport plane between the MI6 agent and the Korean type with the diamonds in his face (which he'd had removed, and had a bit of work done round the eyes), and the Korean chap ended up being electrocuted, and then going through the engine of the transport (can't remember the type, Eric might know). The MI6 agent then went off with some American bird.
It was on the Discovery Channel a while back, I think.
So yes, perfectly feasible to change the length of the day for Scottish farmers, but, as usual, the North Koreans buggered it up for them.
Saddle bum said:
Bill said:
Saddle bum said:
On the whole, having lighter nights is preferable to the majority of the population, plus all the indirect benefits.
Is it, or is that just wishful thinking?On the 1st of December the sun sets at about 15:55 and it rises about 7:50, so you've got around 8 hours of daylight per day to play with.
I reckon most people get home from work about 6PM, so if you wanted 1 hour of daylight to enjoy when you got home then you'd have to set your clock so that it did not get light until 11AM. It would however still be cold and wet as it's Winter so you'd still not want to go outside for that hour anyway.
Keeping the clocks as they are gives lazy journalists two "free" stories per year as they bring this up in some form or another every time the clocks change. While changing the clocks would give them new stories to tell, they would have to actually write those stories rather than copying and pasting an article from the "October 2009" folder to the "October 2010" folder and changing a couple of dates as per the current situation.
On that basis, I think we should keep things as they are.
On that basis, I think we should keep things as they are.
Hang on a minute... did the time in the UK not only get "standardised" due to the railways and the working out of the Train timetables?
Nowadays people fly probably further and more often than people in the 1800s took trains. When you get your itinary for your flight from the UK to the US and you depart at 1200, land at 1500 but you know the flight takes 6/7 hours this isn't too much of problem for most folk to get their head round.
So maybe its time we got back to having our own local times set as per our geographic location.
So when its, say 1900pm in London it would be 1800pm in Bristol, 1930pm in Hull and 1950 in Newcastle;)
Newfoundland is in a different time zone to the rest of the Eastern seaboard, half an hour difference. due to it being on the Eastern extremity but also to its Northerly position. Admittedly they are all barking there
Nowadays people fly probably further and more often than people in the 1800s took trains. When you get your itinary for your flight from the UK to the US and you depart at 1200, land at 1500 but you know the flight takes 6/7 hours this isn't too much of problem for most folk to get their head round.
So maybe its time we got back to having our own local times set as per our geographic location.
So when its, say 1900pm in London it would be 1800pm in Bristol, 1930pm in Hull and 1950 in Newcastle;)
Newfoundland is in a different time zone to the rest of the Eastern seaboard, half an hour difference. due to it being on the Eastern extremity but also to its Northerly position. Admittedly they are all barking there
Mojooo said:
Its easier to adjust the clock than it is for peopel to adjust their working hours. The vast majority of people cannot just adjust their working hours on a whim
Altering a clock to make it lighter is as futile as altering the calendar to make it warmer!It's mid day when the sun is at it's highest point - noon. How can that be wrong?
thinfourth2 said:
Yet again the thickies will be out who think that altering the clocks will give more daylight
In winter you have 6 hours daylight and the work day is 8 hours long it is not posible to go to work and come home again in daylight unless you start work at 3pm and finish at 10am
Or start at 7 and finish at 3In winter you have 6 hours daylight and the work day is 8 hours long it is not posible to go to work and come home again in daylight unless you start work at 3pm and finish at 10am
Digga said:
As I see it, the advantages of having more daylight at the end of the day far outweight the arguments against.
Debateable.- Road safety, especially for kids coming home from school.
- Greater opportunity for sporting activities.
- So we should (generally be healthier) and less succeptible to depression and illness.
- More chance of doing well in international and olympic sports.
- Save energy on lighting.
Can't see any of the above comes at a great cost. Anecdotally, although there are plenty of people up and about - on the roads - early in the day (like me), who might be slightly disadvantaged, there are far more about later on who would benefit.
See above. Why would they benefit?
NoelWatson said:
thinfourth2 said:
Yet again the thickies will be out who think that altering the clocks will give more daylight
In winter you have 6 hours daylight and the work day is 8 hours long it is not posible to go to work and come home again in daylight unless you start work at 3pm and finish at 10am
Or start at 7 and finish at 3In winter you have 6 hours daylight and the work day is 8 hours long it is not posible to go to work and come home again in daylight unless you start work at 3pm and finish at 10am
But in summer it is still light at 11pm
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