Your views on altering daylight hours

[filski666]

why can't the clocks just stay at GMT?

I never understood how putting the clocks forward and back affects the farmers anyway? Surely that is one profession that is not restricted to a clock based schedule? You get up when it is light and go home when it is dark - whether this is 6am, 7am or 8am makes no fking difference!!!

For me, I leave for work at 6am and come home after 7pm so I don't see any daylight during the darker months anyway, so the clocks changing is purely there to try and catch me out.

[thinfourth2]

filski666 said:

I never understood how putting the clocks forward and back affects the farmers anyway?

Living in the middle of a working farm i have discovered

Tractors have headlights

Not unusual for them to be ploughing in the dark if the weather is good

[NoelWatson]

thinfourth2 said:

NoelWatson said:

thinfourth2 said:

Yet again the thickies will be out who think that altering the clocks will give more daylight

In winter you have 6 hours daylight and the work day is 8 hours long it is not posible to go to work and come home again in daylight unless you start work at 3pm and finish at 10am

Or start at 7 and finish at 3

Still very dark at 7am up here in the winter

But in summer it is still light at 11pm

Dark down south at that time in the morning but should get a bit of afternoon/evening sun.

[FunkyNige]

Not sure why people keep bringing up these Scottish farmers, it's got nothing to do with them at all, it was simply a means to get 9-5 in as much daylight as possible.
For example, sunrise/sunset on 21st December without changing the clocks would be 0904/1653, but because we change the clocks it's 0804/1553, meaning the population who start school/work at 9am can travel in daylight.

Here's an interesting (American) link about it - link (I'm sure I post that link this time every year).

[colonel c]

Well my tuppence worth. Keep the time at BST all year. Now obviously in the mid winter there is not much to gain one way or the other. However from today until we change the clocks back to BST the nation as a whole will be switching on lights an hour earlier in the evenings. So some savings in energy to be made. For anyone enjoying outside activities an extra hour of daylight in the afternoon/evenings is useful. I suspect there are not many people involved in outside leisure activities in the mornings, especially on a work day. I find it hard to see any realistic negatives to keeping BST all year round (in England at least).

[strudel]

Or get up earlier when the nights draw in...

[heebeegeetee]

In the summer, doesn't it get light at about 3.30 -4am ish? I'd much rather take an hour from there and add it on to the end of the day so it's still properly light at 10am. Double summertime or whatever they call it. Helped us win WW2.

[colonel c]

strudel said:

Or get up earlier when the nights draw in...

How will that help if your work don't start an hour earlier.

[Johnnytheboy]

filski666 said:

I never understood how putting the clocks forward and back affects the farmers anyway?

Nor have I, can't they choose their own hours, being self employed as a rule?

[thinfourth2]

Johnnytheboy said:

filski666 said:

I never understood how putting the clocks forward and back affects the farmers anyway?

Nor have I, can't they choose their own hours, being self employed as a rule?

its scottish farmers you must blame the scots for everything

But actually it makes feck all difference to farmers due to the invention of headlights

[robsti]

What difference does changing the clocks make to an English working day when if they get half an inch of snow everyone stays at home!

[rs1952]

robsti said:

What difference does changing the clocks make to an English working day when if they get a quarter of an inch of snow everyone stays at home!

EFA

Half an inch would constitute a national emergency

and I live down here

[NoelWatson]

Berlin time

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1329444/Jo...

[CommanderJameson]

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

[colonel c]

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

[F i F]

colonel c said:

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

Why? Just so we can be on same time as most of mainland Europe?

But that cuts an hour off anyone who deals with N/S America surely?

Hint, as above, altering clocks does not actually get you any more daylight, just that people waste too much of it in bed.

[CommanderJameson]

F i F said:

colonel c said:

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

Why? Just so we can be on same time as most of mainland Europe?

But that cuts an hour off anyone who deals with N/S America surely?

Hint, as above, altering clocks does not actually get you any more daylight, just that people waste too much of it in bed.

GMT, so that we're not on the same time as Johnny Foreigner.

[F i F]

CommanderJameson said:

F i F said:

colonel c said:

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

Why? Just so we can be on same time as most of mainland Europe?

But that cuts an hour off anyone who deals with N/S America surely?

Hint, as above, altering clocks does not actually get you any more daylight, just that people waste too much of it in bed.

GMT, so that we're not on the same time as Johnny Foreigner.

That was what I was hinting at. In a previous life that extra hour, or extra two hours was very often crucial considering Johnny Foreigner used to sod off at 16:00 their time.

[Digga]

I realise the total number of daylight hours cannot be changed, but I still stand by my original assertion that altering clocks to shove more of those hours later in the day would be broadly beneficial.

I can see that for those dealing closely with people in other markets - mainland Europe, Far East or Americas - there could be other issues at play, but that's not everyone, by a long stretch.

[elster]

thinfourth2 said:

Johnnytheboy said:

filski666 said:

I never understood how putting the clocks forward and back affects the farmers anyway?

Nor have I, can't they choose their own hours, being self employed as a rule?

its scottish farmers you must blame the scots for everything

But actually it makes feck all difference to farmers due to the invention of headlights

Growing up on a farm and surrounded by farmers and still doing work with them I can confirm that this has nothing to do with farmers.

A 16 hour day when busy would mean most of it is in the dark during winter. Changing the time will mean bugger all.