Your views on altering daylight hours

[Strangely Brown]

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

YES! THIS! ^^^

FFS, stop pissing about with the bloody clocks. I am in favour of GMT all year round, as it should be. Local noon is when the sun is directly overhead.

[telecat]

s2art said:

This was tried back in approx 1970. It was considered a failure then so what has changed?

I was going to school at the time. It was dire, it seemed to be dark a long time in the morning and was a failure. Yet Still the few idiots who support it go on!!!

[qube_TA]

colonel c said:

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

[Bill]

I've had a cunning plan....

Make am 15 hours and pm 9 hours. That way it gets light at 8am and dark at 7pm. Midday will obviously be 3 hours late, but that's a small price to pay.

HTH

[Johnnytheboy]

qube_TA said:

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Surely with GMT the daylight hours would be more symetrical around midday than that?

[qube_TA]

Johnnytheboy said:

qube_TA said:

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Surely with GMT the daylight hours would be more symmetrical around midday than that?

Not sure what you mean, with GMT it gets light at 8 and dark at 4, it's lightest at 12, with BST it's offset by and hour why is this wrong?

Look at this hippy website: http://www.new-age.co.uk/sun-times.htm

It gets light at about 8AM in England in Winter, with BST, that's 9, assuming you arrive at school / work before 9 you'll be getting up and travelling in the dark.

It gets dark just before 4PM, with BEST that'll be just before 5, so given that most people leave work after 5 then it'll still be dark when you leave work to go home.

Baffled why this is complicated to fathom for some.

[FunkyNige]

Digga said:

I realise the total number of daylight hours cannot be changed, but I still stand by my original assertion that altering clocks to shove more of those hours later in the day would be broadly beneficial.

9am sunrise? No thanks! That would mean morning and evening commute will be in the dark, which would suck.

[NoelWatson]

qube_TA said:

it's lightest at 12

Not strictly true. Solar noon around 11:45

[Brink]

FunkyNige said:

Digga said:

I realise the total number of daylight hours cannot be changed, but I still stand by my original assertion that altering clocks to shove more of those hours later in the day would be broadly beneficial.

9am sunrise? No thanks! That would mean morning and evening commute will be in the dark, which would suck.

+1

The lighter evenings campaign is just another excuse for the lazy can't-get-ups who don't want a job. Lighter mornings would benefit the hard working tax paying majority.

[thinfourth2]

Lets just move to the same time as Hong Kong

Then the hugely important finance type can wk themselves silly over being on the same time zone as the far east.

And we can all have light evenings

[Johnnytheboy]

qube_TA said:

Johnnytheboy said:

qube_TA said:

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Surely with GMT the daylight hours would be more symmetrical around midday than that?

Not sure what you mean, with GMT it gets light at 8 and dark at 4, it's lightest at 12, with BST it's offset by and hour why is this wrong?

It's not wrong.

But it's not what you wrote in the post I quoted (sunrise at 9, sunset at 5).

[Mojocvh]

Johnnytheboy said:

qube_TA said:

Johnnytheboy said:

qube_TA said:

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Surely with GMT the daylight hours would be more symmetrical around midday than that?

Not sure what you mean, with GMT it gets light at 8 and dark at 4, it's lightest at 12, with BST it's offset by and hour why is this wrong?

It's not wrong.

But it's not what you wrote in the post I quoted (sunrise at 9, sunset at 5).

Current situation in Perthshire. http://www.carseweather.net/wxindex.php


Sunrise: 07:51
Sunset: 16:03

It should be noted, however, that all it takes is an heavily overcast sky and you are in a dark gloom for the entire "daylight" period.

Dial in "winter" weather over a period of time and it is correspondingly darker thus

http://www.carseweather.net/wxsimforecast.php

Still should be a good day Wed, http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.as...

[bobr]

I win
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/tomorrow.asp?z...
http://www.metcheck.com/V40/UK/FREE/dayforecast.as...

Edited by bobr on Monday 15th November 21:28

[lord summerisle]

elster said:

thinfourth2 said:

Johnnytheboy said:

filski666 said:

I never understood how putting the clocks forward and back affects the farmers anyway?

Nor have I, can't they choose their own hours, being self employed as a rule?

its scottish farmers you must blame the scots for everything

But actually it makes feck all difference to farmers due to the invention of headlights

Growing up on a farm and surrounded by farmers and still doing work with them I can confirm that this has nothing to do with farmers.

A 16 hour day when busy would mean most of it is in the dark during winter. Changing the time will mean bugger all.

British Summer Time came into being in 1916 - as a way of increasing production in factories during the War, and reduce electricity needs in lighting the factories.

[qube_TA]

Johnnytheboy said:

qube_TA said:

Johnnytheboy said:

qube_TA said:

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Surely with GMT the daylight hours would be more symmetrical around midday than that?

Not sure what you mean, with GMT it gets light at 8 and dark at 4, it's lightest at 12, with BST it's offset by and hour why is this wrong?

It's not wrong.

But it's not what you wrote in the post I quoted (sunrise at 9, sunset at 5).

the 9 & 5 is what you'd get with BST in Winter as it was suggested that sticking with that all year round would be better.

[colonel c]

qube_TA said:

colonel c said:

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Not everyone lives a 9 to 5 lifestyle. However you cut it though, most pople would have an extra hour of usable daylight for six months if we keep BST.

[F i F]

lord summerisle said:

elster said:

thinfourth2 said:

Johnnytheboy said:

filski666 said:

I never understood how putting the clocks forward and back affects the farmers anyway?

Nor have I, can't they choose their own hours, being self employed as a rule?

its scottish farmers you must blame the scots for everything

But actually it makes feck all difference to farmers due to the invention of headlights

Growing up on a farm and surrounded by farmers and still doing work with them I can confirm that this has nothing to do with farmers.

A 16 hour day when busy would mean most of it is in the dark during winter. Changing the time will mean bugger all.

British Summer Time came into being in 1916 - as a way of increasing production in factories during the War, and reduce electricity needs in lighting the factories.

But this is the point though, why didn't they just say, "It's an emergency, working / std office hours will now be...."

If one desires to make better use of the available daylight, just get out of the scratcher earlier... ffs it's not hard.

Well it might be hard, morning wood and all that. err

[Bing o]

thinfourth2 said:

Lets just move to the same time as Hong Kong

Then the hugely important finance type can wk themselves silly over being on the same time zone as the far east.

And we can all have light evenings

Funnily enough, I was just going to respond that it's better for doing business with the east to keep on BST

Off home for a wk now...

[qube_TA]

colonel c said:

qube_TA said:

colonel c said:

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Not everyone lives a 9 to 5 lifestyle. However you cut it though, most pople would have an extra hour of usable daylight for six months if we keep BST.

How?

[colonel c]

qube_TA said:

colonel c said:

qube_TA said:

colonel c said:

CommanderJameson said:

Johnnytheboy said:

Einion Yrth said:

We can't alter daylight hours, all we can do is alter what time we say it is when it's light. Leave the clocks alone and if necessary change your working hours to suit you better.

+1.

I honestly wonder if some of the proponents of altering hours (not here) think it makes the day longer.

And again.

Set the clocks to GMT and leave them be.

BST is better.

So it doesn't get light until 9 (so dark going to work/school) and dark again at 5 (so dark when you're coming home from work).

Sounds awesome, are you a vampire with an allergy to daylight or something?

Not everyone lives a 9 to 5 lifestyle. However you cut it though, most pople would have an extra hour of usable daylight for six months if we keep BST.

How?

How! Because from October to March every year darkness will fall an hour sooner than it would have if BST was retained. Given that the majority of people are more active in the afternoons and evenings, that makes hour of useful daylight. That's how.