Ambulance tea break death
Discussion
killsta said:
From what I've gathered when I've spoken to ambulance staff, they work much differently than you'd expect.
They are given jobs by their control room, they don't just shout up for whatever they feel like/are closest to. It's up to the control room to decide who to send. Once dispatched their satnav tells them the route to take, and they cannot deviate from that route. Same goes for the route back to the hospital.
Strange, but it is the NHS afterall.
Not true. You can go whichever way you wish (within reason!)They are given jobs by their control room, they don't just shout up for whatever they feel like/are closest to. It's up to the control room to decide who to send. Once dispatched their satnav tells them the route to take, and they cannot deviate from that route. Same goes for the route back to the hospital.
Strange, but it is the NHS afterall.
JumboBeef said:
killsta said:
From what I've gathered when I've spoken to ambulance staff, they work much differently than you'd expect.
They are given jobs by their control room, they don't just shout up for whatever they feel like/are closest to. It's up to the control room to decide who to send. Once dispatched their satnav tells them the route to take, and they cannot deviate from that route. Same goes for the route back to the hospital.
Strange, but it is the NHS afterall.
Not true. You can go whichever way you wish (within reason!)They are given jobs by their control room, they don't just shout up for whatever they feel like/are closest to. It's up to the control room to decide who to send. Once dispatched their satnav tells them the route to take, and they cannot deviate from that route. Same goes for the route back to the hospital.
Strange, but it is the NHS afterall.
746529 said:
Double standards
Not at all - I expect poor moral behaviour from someone employed in an industry where poor moral behaviour is rewarded. I expect better behaviour from someone's whose livelihood is in an industry created to help people.So a banker acting like a banker is not the same as a paramedic acting like a selfish banker.
Jesus TF Christ said:
freecar said:
746529 said:
dundarach said:
746529 said:
People are not morally responsible for their actions when they are following rules and proceedures
Now that is a scary thought - I sure hope humanity has not come to this........CoopR said:
Unions are utter scum...
i used to think like that and had many arguments with my dad over how unions had ruined the country. but i joined the union at a previous employer and was glad i had when our boss tried to impose something on us that was not only poor working practice, but turned out to be illegal.unions have a part to play in the grand scheme of things, however they do tend to get a bad press as a whole because of a few militant ones.
i was so thankful for their help, i then joined the IT depts sub committee and found not a load of table banging commies, but a group of sensible minded people who wanted the bank to make lots of money so we could have a lump as we helped create it. they also allowed the little man to stand up and be counted at times.
i also have a family member who is a driver on the underground, he also does union work, and like me he feels that if you get to the point that you are talking about industrial action then both sides have failed.
unions have a part to play in todays labour relations, but the media don't publicise the good things they do.
as for this case, i am in 2 minds, yes the guy was on a break but it was only 800yds away. however everyone needs a break and he may have needed it in case he made a mistake. what if he had dropped everything, then through being tired he had injected the wrong amount of something. i don't think the media do anyone any favours with emotive stories like this.
sorry it was a bit off topic.
So the background to this is that his employer (nationwide) reduced the working week from 40 to 37 hours. Some ambulance services offered staff payments of up to £1,200 to opt-out of their rest breaks. This man's employer offered only £250.
Would you lose your rest breaks at work for only £250 a year?
Sounds to me like his employer might be hanging him out to dry, when in reality he's probably that pissed off with being ill-treated, he's decided to work to rule. I can't say I blame him.
Would you lose your rest breaks at work for only £250 a year?
Sounds to me like his employer might be hanging him out to dry, when in reality he's probably that pissed off with being ill-treated, he's decided to work to rule. I can't say I blame him.
grumbledoak said:
That woman is quite likely dead because he wanted the doughnut that was 'due to him'.
Bit of a stretch, as even if he did go straight there the probability is she wouldn't have made it (saving lives isn't like TV - two compressions and a rescue breath isn't enough in real life) . The problem is she wasn't given the best possible chance of survival due to a stupid rule and a stupid person who followed said stupid rule.746529 said:
People are not morally responsible for their actions when they are following rules and proceedures
Yes they are. I was just following Orders didn't save the Nazis at Nuremberg.Morality is determined as the social mores which bind us and transcend law, rules and procedures.
746529 said:
grumbledoak said:
Thirteen years of union rule. "Sorry mate, I'm not on duty."
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Oh, it's the unions fault is it?s.Management are not reponsible for their own rules then?
Parrot of Doom said:
So the background to this is that his employer (nationwide) reduced the working week from 40 to 37 hours. Some ambulance services offered staff payments of up to £1,200 to opt-out of their rest breaks. This man's employer offered only £250.
Would you lose your rest breaks at work for only £250 a year?
Sounds to me like his employer might be hanging him out to dry, when in reality he's probably that pissed off with being ill-treated, he's decided to work to rule. I can't say I blame him.
Working to rule's fine when it's a pensioner with a stubbed toe- I would however venture to suggest that if you're fully aware someone has suffered a heart attack in the close vicinity your vocation/commitment would take over... This is the reason I will NEVER agree to lobby for Police being given the right to strike. It's your job!Would you lose your rest breaks at work for only £250 a year?
Sounds to me like his employer might be hanging him out to dry, when in reality he's probably that pissed off with being ill-treated, he's decided to work to rule. I can't say I blame him.
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