£111M spent on council offices

£111M spent on council offices

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eps

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6,297 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Well done.

http://e-edition.metro.co.uk/2010/12/16/index.html...

Then axe 1,600 jobs.

Labour run Newham Council, says it all really.

All in the name of saving money.. Does anyone really believe that?

£111M!

FFS!

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

247 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Similar problem where I live. Humungous new town hall built some years ago saddling Council Tax payers with big flashy premises to maintain and a mountain of debt. A huge proportion of our Council Tax goes on interest payments and bloomin' public sector pensions. Meanwhile the roads are disintegrating.

tinman0

18,231 posts

241 months

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Same here in Monmouth. Massive new offices built/approved in the last couple of years at huge cost. Wasteful s.

turbobloke

104,014 posts

261 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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HowMuchLonger

3,004 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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If they had spent it on offices that minimised running costs then it would be okay. Green energy to reduce bills, self cleaning windows to reduce bills, well insulated to reduce bills....etc.

But no they spent it on £5k light fittings!

JagLover

42,445 posts

236 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Standard Labour modus operandi

and when they come to implement the cuts imposed on them by a cut in the central government grant they will be careful to cut front line services and leave the numbers of diversity consultants and all other such non jobs unchanged.

Sticks.

8,775 posts

252 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Well done, mentioned pensions in the second post.. Wouldn't be PH without that wink

Govt isn't worried. If it was it would have reformed the Audit Commission rather than binning it. By getting rid rather than sharpening it up we can expect to see more of our money wasted in time imho.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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HowMuchLonger said:
If they had spent it on offices that minimised running costs then it would be okay. Green energy to reduce bills, self cleaning windows to reduce bills, well insulated to reduce bills....etc.

But no they spent it on £5k light fittings!
the building will have been refurbished to the then current regs which will be more efficient that the five buildings they replaced

bear in mind the site cost £92m to buy

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
the building will have been refurbished to the then current regs
scratchchin


eps

Original Poster:

6,297 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
HowMuchLonger said:
If they had spent it on offices that minimised running costs then it would be okay. Green energy to reduce bills, self cleaning windows to reduce bills, well insulated to reduce bills....etc.

But no they spent it on £5k light fittings!
the building will have been refurbished to the then current regs which will be more efficient that the five buildings they replaced

bear in mind the site cost £92m to buy
It's been interior decorated to a similar look as a nightclub... ??????????

92M? Bargain! wink

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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whilst the light fittings will conform to Part L it doesn't make reference to their aesthetics, nor does it need to

admittedly, bespoke lighting is excessive for public buildings such as this although adding £9k to a budget of £19m isn't going to make that much of a difference

IMO this story has, as always, been badly reported - the council will recoup their investment within five years together with the disposal of their old sites

eps

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6,297 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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eps

Original Poster:

6,297 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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and this!

"
Newham is one of the few London councils to employ a directly elected mayor, Sir Robin Wales.

When he took over, the traditional town festival was rebranded as the Mayor's Newham Show and spending increased to £362,000.

The council initially refused to say how much it cost before the rebranding.

'Splashing the cash'

But the Freedom of Information request reveals spending on the show almost doubled following the mayor's decision to name it after himself, up from £158,478 in 2004.
"

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
admittedly, bespoke lighting is excessive for public buildings such as this although adding £9k to a budget of £19m isn't going to make that much of a difference
If they were lavish on one set of light fittings you can pretty much guarantee they took that approach to the building in general.

However, if they are consolidating themselves into 1 building at this cost of 92m I'd be interested to hear what they've sold off their old buildings for - I'm not against this move on principal - more about they spec and cost. If they can prove that it will save money in the long run then fine - but why the lavish spec? Oh wait - because it's 'public' money that's why.

eps

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6,297 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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and.. "For three Building 1000s you could get an Emirates Stadium"

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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so front of house reception looks good - that's not really a big surprise

you of all people would know the common parts and back of house won't be fitted out with scagliola marble, murano fittings and polished plaster

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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hornetrider said:
If they were lavish on one set of light fittings you can pretty much guarantee they took that approach to the building in general.

However, if they are consolidating themselves into 1 building at this cost of 92m I'd be interested to hear what they've sold off their old buildings for - I'm not against this move on principal - more about they spec and cost. If they can prove that it will save money in the long run then fine - but why the lavish spec? Oh wait - because it's 'public' money that's why.
no you can't pretty much guarantee in any way whatsoever

lobbies and initial front of house areas are always up spec'd - as you go through the building the spec will be reduced

may I ask, how many publically funded construction projects have you worked on?

hornetrider

63,161 posts

206 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
may I ask, how many publically funded construction projects have you worked on?
17.

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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eps said:
and.. "For three Building 1000s you could get an Emirates Stadium"
excluding land acquisition costs

hardly like for like comparison

rolleyes