£111M spent on council offices

£111M spent on council offices

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Mojooo

12,743 posts

181 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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chris watton said:


I find it amazing that anyone could defend this!

To me, in one of the country's poorest bouroughs, it smacks of a "Let them eat cake" attitude from the labour council leaders.
is that a public waiting area? if so its no big deal, deep down the peopel visiting want somewhere nice to sit!


eps

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6,297 posts

270 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
eps said:
You're defending that? I've merely reported the facts available, yet you seem happy to suggest that the disposal will save a load of money and the assumed cost savings will more than cover the cost. Meanwhile they are shedding jobs and also, as someone has indicated not spending money on the local hospital. I know which I'd rather have a few million spent on!
I'm not defending it, just pointing out the innacuracies in your posts

every council is having to shed jobs, it's not exclusive to those that have invested in construction schemes

btw, you neatly avoid this little factoid 'This council expects to save almost £140m in total by the end of 2014'

sounds like a healthy net gain to me

anyways, I'm off to a meeting - I've got to spec an M&E installation and spend millions of public money wink
WTF is a "factoid"?? They "expect" = a guess (at best).

Anyway! I just think it is too much money to spend on council offices as opposed to other public services.

Let us know if you find out if they save money or how much they make on the sale of the former sites.

baz1985

3,598 posts

246 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Long-term rationalisation.

s3fella

10,524 posts

188 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Was up in Yorkshire this week and whiilst I cannot recall details, the local news had a story on Weds about a local Magistrates Courth that is being close now due to the redcuced core payment to the Council despite having a 6 wee refurb costing £110k finished a week ago!


As if these muppets could nto foresee the potential cuts and hold off the work? Although no doubt the refurb was done by a mate or relative of a Councilor......?

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Central framework contractor - you need to be pre-approved before you get on the tnder list

goes for all consultants too

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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chris watton said:
sleep envy said:
btw, you neatly avoid this little factoid 'This council expects to save almost £140m in total by the end of 2014'

sounds like a healthy net gain to me
..And you believe that?
why not?

The figures would have been compiled by a private consultantcy and will have been audited by the council even before they will have bought the site.

They don't pluck arbitry figures out of the air.

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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I was in there today. It's got some pretty stunning views overlooking the City Airport.

It was supposed to be for Newham employees only but I believe 2/3 of it is now leased out to local business interests.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

199 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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chris watton said:
it smacks of a "Let them eat cake".
the cake is a lie!

sleep envy

62,260 posts

250 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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br d said:
I was in there today. It's got some pretty stunning views overlooking the City Airport.

It was supposed to be for Newham employees only but I believe 2/3 of it is now leased out to local business interests.
having looked into it earlier this afternoon that was always part of the business plan

15,000 m2 council offices, 10,000 m2 c1 office space

br d

8,403 posts

227 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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sleep envy said:
br d said:
I was in there today. It's got some pretty stunning views overlooking the City Airport.

It was supposed to be for Newham employees only but I believe 2/3 of it is now leased out to local business interests.
having looked into it earlier this afternoon that was always part of the business plan

15,000 m2 council offices, 10,000 m2 c1 office space
Ah. I was told that by somebody reasonably high ranking in LBN, obviously mistaken.

Speaking purely subjectively as a contractor who does a lot of work for Newham, long may they keep throwing money about!

CobolMan

1,417 posts

208 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Hazel Blears was responsible for splitting Cheshire into Cheshire East and Cheshire West & Chester - all for political reasons although it was claimed it would lead to 'efficiency' savings. So, instead of having one CC with a large number of centralised teams there are two Councils with twice as many teams; the leaders of EC & CWAC have now decided that many of these teams should be combined i.e. go back to how it used to be.

Just how much money has been wasted in this little enterprise I dread to think. Labour, pi$$ing taxpayers money up the wall.

Parrot of Doom

23,075 posts

235 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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SystemParanoia said:
chris watton said:
it smacks of a "Let them eat cake".
the cake is a lie!
No, it's a spah!