Rant: social engineering and its failings.

Rant: social engineering and its failings.

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Getragdogleg

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8,769 posts

183 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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powerstroke said:
Getragdogleg said:
12gauge said:
Funny title

social engineering and its failings

You people actually think this is what labour consider 'failings'?

Its what they meant to happen all along.
Careful, you will be asked to provide proof that Labour wanted this all along.
Anyone who asks for that most likely needs proof it goes dark at night too....
I was told its man made light change and the best way to stop it was via taxation.

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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hidetheelephants said:
Zaxxon said:
Is that the period of 10 years post 1997 when Labour blamed everything on the previous Tory government?

Then it was realised that Labour had been in power for 10 years and had not improved life one bit, had got involved in 2 wars that they could not justify being part of (at least Maggie fought off an invasion.....and won).
The general populace slowly began to realise that thanks to Brown, we had no gold left, no money and a bleak future.
Blair and Brown couldn't use the 'but it was maggie's fault' card. Blair realised that the country no longer believed his lies and scarpered. Brown was left and couldn't paint over the cracks with a winning cheesy smile, because he didn't have one.

For what it's worth, I don't think the coalition will be able to turn things around, it's too far gone, Labour has sunk this country and the bankers have stolen all the life rafts.
Proper ray of sunshine you are.
Having read another thread about living to a old age, makes you wonder if its worth the effort. Flippin' eck what a New Years message that is biglaugh

ZesPak

24,432 posts

196 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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cymtriks said:
Which shows how much they need to cut it back.

Not long ago I met a woman who worked in social housing. I asked her if she thought there were too many places available as 8 million seems a very big number.

Her:
What about young people living in pretty villages, we urgently need to build council estates in little villages otherwise where will they live?

Me:
What about the existing estates in nearby larger towns? These are just a few miles away and on a bus route.

Her:
But what about being near to your family, obviously I wouldn't understand the close ties in a small village but if I did then it would be obvious that a 20 year old young man couldn't possibly live in the next town, so far far away from his mum, brothers and sisters.

Me:
Surely that must be a very low priority? It isn't that far away and there doesn't seem to be anything urgent about the case?

Her:
Everyone should be allowed to live in a state paid for house anywhere they want, rural social housing is urgently needed to ensure this, you can't expect young people to have to travel to visit their relatives and friends, they have a right to stay in their home village.


That is the attitude we need to get rid of.

Good luck.
eek Utter the phrase "beggars can't be choosers", it will overload and fry the little bunch of neural electrical circuitry she calls a brain.

turbobloke

103,968 posts

260 months

Friday 31st December 2010
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There's a right to breathe air, until you stop. Apart from that the rest is lefty make believe.

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Zaxxon said:
Is that the period of 10 years post 1997 when Labour blamed everything on the previous Tory government?

Then it was realised that Labour had been in power for 10 years and had not improved life one bit, had got involved in 2 wars that they could not justify being part of (at least Maggie fought off an invasion.....and won).
The general populace slowly began to realise that thanks to Brown, we had no gold left, no money and a bleak future.
Blair and Brown couldn't use the 'but it was maggie's fault' card. Blair realised that the country no longer believed his lies and scarpered. Brown was left and couldn't paint over the cracks with a winning cheesy smile, because he didn't have one.

For what it's worth, I don't think the coalition will be able to turn things around, it's too far gone, Labour has sunk this country and the bankers have stolen all the life rafts.
Fine words well said . . but, you forgot the pensions heist.




and don't get me started on the £40 billion plus, plus, plus of the nonsense that is the Climate Act.

turbobloke

103,968 posts

260 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Lost_BMW said:
Zaxxon said:
Is that the period of 10 years post 1997 when Labour blamed everything on the previous Tory government?

Then it was realised that Labour had been in power for 10 years and had not improved life one bit, had got involved in 2 wars that they could not justify being part of (at least Maggie fought off an invasion.....and won).
The general populace slowly began to realise that thanks to Brown, we had no gold left, no money and a bleak future.
Blair and Brown couldn't use the 'but it was maggie's fault' card. Blair realised that the country no longer believed his lies and scarpered. Brown was left and couldn't paint over the cracks with a winning cheesy smile, because he didn't have one.

For what it's worth, I don't think the coalition will be able to turn things around, it's too far gone, Labour has sunk this country and the bankers have stolen all the life rafts.
Fine words well said . . but, you forgot the pensions heist.




and don't get me started on the £40 billion plus, plus, plus of the nonsense that is the Climate Act.
It looks like there's a typo there, isn't it £400 billion (Liarbore estimate) or double that for a more realistic cost of the Climate Change Act?

frown

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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turbobloke said:
Lost_BMW said:
Zaxxon said:
Is that the period of 10 years post 1997 when Labour blamed everything on the previous Tory government?

Then it was realised that Labour had been in power for 10 years and had not improved life one bit, had got involved in 2 wars that they could not justify being part of (at least Maggie fought off an invasion.....and won).
The general populace slowly began to realise that thanks to Brown, we had no gold left, no money and a bleak future.
Blair and Brown couldn't use the 'but it was maggie's fault' card. Blair realised that the country no longer believed his lies and scarpered. Brown was left and couldn't paint over the cracks with a winning cheesy smile, because he didn't have one.

For what it's worth, I don't think the coalition will be able to turn things around, it's too far gone, Labour has sunk this country and the bankers have stolen all the life rafts.
Fine words well said . . but, you forgot the pensions heist.




and don't get me started on the £40 billion plus, plus, plus of the nonsense that is the Climate Act.
It looks like there's a typo there, isn't it £400 billion (Liarbore estimate) or double that for a more realistic cost of the Climate Change Act?

frown
Yep typo - £400 Billion plus etc. from one govt. source but - over the long haul - estimated at over £750 Billion, as per the Dellingpole reprise article linked on the climate thread! Shocking figures. Have they ever sanctioned spending that much on anything else (of worth)?

Getragdogleg

Original Poster:

8,769 posts

183 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Its interesting that the Climate Change lie has come onto this topic. Both the levelling of society via the burgeoning welfare state and the fear/taxation via Climate brainwashing are both forms of social engineering designed to create a more pliable submissive population.

awaits naysayers, people who will accuse me of being paranoid and wearing a tin foil hat, also expected are liars, policy trolls and some of the other shift working dark entities of the web who normally come into threads like this forcing the message "nothing to see here, move along"


Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Saturday 1st January 2011
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Getragdogleg said:
Its interesting that the Climate Change lie has come onto this topic. Both the levelling of society via the burgeoning welfare state and the fear/taxation via Climate brainwashing are both forms of social engineering designed to create a more pliable submissive population.

awaits naysayers, people who will accuse me of being paranoid and wearing a tin foil hat, also expected are liars, policy trolls and some of the other shift working dark entities of the web who normally come into threads like this forcing the message "nothing to see here, move along"
It was more or less accidental - just a dig at another of the great legacy projects Labour have saddled us with (and given the current conalition are into this hook line and sinker) and that have helped ruin so many.

But you're quite right, there is a definite link to the social engineering, elitist "we know best" policy makers, deceitful revenue-on-a-lie raisers and wealth distributors (targets here and abroad) so no paranoia necessary.

They are taking billions out of the economy and our pockets on a (half believed?) set of untested and unproven assumptions. A sad and disgraceful policy, as disgusting as the social mixing know it alls you described from the start.

Pupp

12,227 posts

272 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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Lost_BMW said:
as disgusting as the social mixing know it alls you misdescribed from the start.
Just made this bit a touch more accurate; hope that's ok...

Getragdogleg

Original Poster:

8,769 posts

183 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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Pupp said:
Lost_BMW said:
as disgusting as the social mixing know it alls you misdescribed from the start.
Just made this bit a touch more accurate; hope that's ok...
No, No it's not ok actually.

Anyway you have not responded to my last direct post to you yet, Anecdotal local knowledge was not good enough for you so i asked a question, you have not yet responded.

getragdogleg said:
And we get to the root of it, the basis for the last few pages of post tennis has been that you don't believe that a local authority or a housing association would take a fee to find a place for trouble families.

Where might I look to find the proof ?
Care to address that before we get into more "everything is fine, these are not the social problems you are looking for" posts from you ?

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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Pupp said:
Lost_BMW said:
as disgusting as the social mixing know it alls you misdescribed from the start.
Just made this bit a touch more accurate; hope that's ok...
Partisan and pointless in equal measure.


Which Milliband did you vote for?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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I had an unusual feeling of contentment after my lunch. After a visit to this forum I am firmly back in my dark place.

eccles

13,740 posts

222 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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johnxjsc1985 said:
I had an unusual feeling of contentment after my lunch. After a visit to this forum I am firmly back in my dark place.
Rope is on special at screwfix at the moment. wink

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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eccles said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I had an unusual feeling of contentment after my lunch. After a visit to this forum I am firmly back in my dark place.
Rope is on special at screwfix at the moment. wink
Talking of rope, what happened to that guy who made a business building hangmans hardware?

johnxjsc1985

15,948 posts

164 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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eccles said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I had an unusual feeling of contentment after my lunch. After a visit to this forum I am firmly back in my dark place.
Rope is on special at screwfix at the moment. wink
I trust you bought a sufficient length.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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crankedup said:
eccles said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I had an unusual feeling of contentment after my lunch. After a visit to this forum I am firmly back in my dark place.
Rope is on special at screwfix at the moment. wink
Talking of rope, what happened to that guy who made a business building hangmans hardware?
He was probably forced to quit just like the UK company the other day (yes under the current government) that just lost business because they sold lethal drugs to the US court system.


Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

176 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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Pesty said:
crankedup said:
eccles said:
johnxjsc1985 said:
I had an unusual feeling of contentment after my lunch. After a visit to this forum I am firmly back in my dark place.
Rope is on special at screwfix at the moment. wink
Talking of rope, what happened to that guy who made a business building hangmans hardware?
He was probably forced to quit just like the UK company the other day (yes under the current government) that just lost business because they sold lethal drugs to the US court system.
So I'm guessing that all the arms manufacturers will be next then? Or are bullets, missiles and mines that can potentially hit indiscriminately now counted as being morally better to sell than drugs aimed directly at convicted felons? Bizarre.