Olympic recruiting racism?
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I'm sure if you divide down enough you will always find some sort of inequality, but is it really a problem or just a perceived one.
Correct percentage of ethnic minorities - check.
But what about the percentages within this group, do they need more Somalis, are Iraqis over represented. Who gets to decide which are important, this to me just typifies some of the problems within Britain.
Correct percentage of ethnic minorities - check.
But what about the percentages within this group, do they need more Somalis, are Iraqis over represented. Who gets to decide which are important, this to me just typifies some of the problems within Britain.
If you're a white male your best bet is to claim you are homosexual. The recruitment panel can turn a blind eye to the lie more easily than if you claim you are black. It's a recruitment score for them.
I have this on very good authority from someone senior in the London Fire Brigade. I imagine much of the public sector works in the same fashion.
I have this on very good authority from someone senior in the London Fire Brigade. I imagine much of the public sector works in the same fashion.
The Police were carrying out a similar recruitment process in 2003 (or there abouts), and pushing through female and ethnic minority applicants over 'white males'.
Again I am against all racism, which is why I find it crazy that a certain skin pigmentation or tits can get you a job over someone more capable.
Again I am against all racism, which is why I find it crazy that a certain skin pigmentation or tits can get you a job over someone more capable.
voyds9 said:
However, there is also a shortage of White players at Kabaddi.
I would like to highlight that the Global Outreach Kabbaddi World Association Network has continuously made efforts to get the indiginious white population to joing the ranks of the Kabbaddi game. We were encouraged by the uprise in happy slapping. We currently are running a MAJOR publicity campaign to address these concerns going to the point of hosting a 49th match in Chelsea Gardens. However it seems that wearing nappy pants, oiling yourself up and slapping Each other to the point where you are redder than a babboons ass, this is not a trend that is on the uprise in the kingdom of the UK. It is a shame but we will try to crack some market for this game. Next year we move the 49th game to Brighton beach.
Engineer1 said:
FFS when ever I have filled a form in like that page 1 has your details and a serial number and is usually single sided and removable. The subsequent pages all have the serial number, the equal opportunities bit is also usually removable and has the serial number.
The applicant sort takes place with anonymous forms, so they can prove the selection process was fair. If they had names or addresses they could guess things about candidates that could open them up to accusations of bias.
The reason they have to collect this sort of data is because people have made a reasonable living out of applying for a job multiple times using the same cv but changing their sex or ethnicity, if Jane gets an interview and Mohammed doesn't when they both have the same CV then the company is racist. If the company can prove that they didnt give the person performing the sift any personal information then they can prove it was luck not racism or sexism.
I wouldn't bother. The applicant sort takes place with anonymous forms, so they can prove the selection process was fair. If they had names or addresses they could guess things about candidates that could open them up to accusations of bias.
The reason they have to collect this sort of data is because people have made a reasonable living out of applying for a job multiple times using the same cv but changing their sex or ethnicity, if Jane gets an interview and Mohammed doesn't when they both have the same CV then the company is racist. If the company can prove that they didnt give the person performing the sift any personal information then they can prove it was luck not racism or sexism.
The impotent rage has been awakened.
Common sense will not prevail in this thread.
Engineer1 said:
FFS when ever I have filled a form in like that page 1 has your details and a serial number and is usually single sided and removable. The subsequent pages all have the serial number, the equal opportunities bit is also usually removable and has the serial number.
The applicant sort takes place with anonymous forms, so they can prove the selection process was fair. If they had names or addresses they could guess things about candidates that could open them up to accusations of bias.
The reason they have to collect this sort of data is because people have made a reasonable living out of applying for a job multiple times using the same cv but changing their sex or ethnicity, if Jane gets an interview and Mohammed doesn't when they both have the same CV then the company is racist. If the company can prove that they didnt give the person performing the sift any personal information then they can prove it was luck not racism or sexism.
Not in this case.The applicant sort takes place with anonymous forms, so they can prove the selection process was fair. If they had names or addresses they could guess things about candidates that could open them up to accusations of bias.
The reason they have to collect this sort of data is because people have made a reasonable living out of applying for a job multiple times using the same cv but changing their sex or ethnicity, if Jane gets an interview and Mohammed doesn't when they both have the same CV then the company is racist. If the company can prove that they didnt give the person performing the sift any personal information then they can prove it was luck not racism or sexism.
They are quite open in their intent.
"LOCOG is actively committed to the employment and career development of Black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people."
You obviously missed the "actively committted" bit.
It reads like a recruiting poster for the clan.
jeff m said:
"LOCOG is actively committed to the employment and career development of Black, Asian and minority ethnic (BAME) people."
Which is another way of saying that without their help, these sort of people would never get a job, so they have to stop the white indigenous people having any jobs, but continue to screw them with an enhanced council tax to pay for the olympics and the bamesImagine the outcry if publicly funded jobs were advertised and the bames were told to not even consider applying
Positive discrimination is still racism
Scraggles said:
Which is another way of saying that without their help, these sort of people would never get a job, so they have to stop the white indigenous people having any jobs, but continue to screw them with an enhanced council tax to pay for the olympics and the bames
Imagine the outcry if publicly funded jobs were advertised and the bames were told to not even consider applying
Positive discrimination is still racism
Why don't get your rant in on 'two ticks' accreditation in employment selection as well as after all 'cripples, psychos and mongs' are unemployable untermenschen without the pity of the Master Race as well .... ?Imagine the outcry if publicly funded jobs were advertised and the bames were told to not even consider applying
Positive discrimination is still racism
does your rant sound quite as acceptable when phrased in that way ?
why don't you clear off to somehwere where your repungant racist views are welcome , i'm sure the English d
head League or the Brutish Nasti Party would welcome you with open arms most people simply do not realise the inherent biases built into many systems ...
mph1977 said:
Scraggles said:
Which is another way of saying that without their help, these sort of people would never get a job, so they have to stop the white indigenous people having any jobs, but continue to screw them with an enhanced council tax to pay for the olympics and the bames
Imagine the outcry if publicly funded jobs were advertised and the bames were told to not even consider applying
Positive discrimination is still racism
Why don't get your rant in on 'two ticks' accreditation in employment selection as well as after all 'cripples, psychos and mongs' are unemployable untermenschen without the pity of the Master Race as well .... ?Imagine the outcry if publicly funded jobs were advertised and the bames were told to not even consider applying
Positive discrimination is still racism
does your rant sound quite as acceptable when phrased in that way ?
why don't you clear off to somehwere where your repungant racist views are welcome , i'm sure the English d
head League or the Brutish Nasti Party would welcome you with open arms most people simply do not realise the inherent biases built into many systems ...
rypt said:
mph1977 said:
Scraggles said:
Which is another way of saying that without their help, these sort of people would never get a job, so they have to stop the white indigenous people having any jobs, but continue to screw them with an enhanced council tax to pay for the olympics and the bames
Imagine the outcry if publicly funded jobs were advertised and the bames were told to not even consider applying
Positive discrimination is still racism
Why don't get your rant in on 'two ticks' accreditation in employment selection as well as after all 'cripples, psychos and mongs' are unemployable untermenschen without the pity of the Master Race as well .... ?Imagine the outcry if publicly funded jobs were advertised and the bames were told to not even consider applying
Positive discrimination is still racism
does your rant sound quite as acceptable when phrased in that way ?
why don't you clear off to somehwere where your repungant racist views are welcome , i'm sure the English d
head League or the Brutish Nasti Party would welcome you with open arms most people simply do not realise the inherent biases built into many systems ...
Should just be a case of the best person gets the job, regardless of their skin colour or beliefs. The fact that some of these organisations have a ludicrous concept of having to employ a certain percentage of ethnic minorities just highlights the organisations own inadequacies.
Had this been anything other than a major event I'd agree with all of you in a flash even as a minority (well half a minority lol).
But to play Devil's Advocate couldn't the reason for them asking be that the games are likely to attract people from all over the world so having people who can identify with their cultures, speak the language be advantageous?
I could be giving them more credit then they deserve which I probably am.
But to play Devil's Advocate couldn't the reason for them asking be that the games are likely to attract people from all over the world so having people who can identify with their cultures, speak the language be advantageous?
I could be giving them more credit then they deserve which I probably am.
got no interest with the far right parties, nor with the far left ones, eg the anti fascists who are defending the Muslim extremists that the EDL are protesting about
either people are selected for a job on the basis of their skills with the colour of their skin being irrelevant
imagine some black guy being told that the only reason he got the job, was because he was black, eg his skill set was way too poor to normally give him a chance, massive boost to the self esteem or not ?
either people are selected for a job on the basis of their skills with the colour of their skin being irrelevant
imagine some black guy being told that the only reason he got the job, was because he was black, eg his skill set was way too poor to normally give him a chance, massive boost to the self esteem or not ?
Scraggles said:
got no interest with the far right parties, nor with the far left ones, eg the anti fascists who are defending the Muslim extremists that the EDL are protesting about
either people are selected for a job on the basis of their skills with the colour of their skin being irrelevant
imagine some black guy being told that the only reason he got the job, was because he was black, eg his skill set was way too poor to normally give him a chance, massive boost to the self esteem or not ?
point missed either people are selected for a job on the basis of their skills with the colour of their skin being irrelevant
imagine some black guy being told that the only reason he got the job, was because he was black, eg his skill set was way too poor to normally give him a chance, massive boost to the self esteem or not ?
the only time minority status comes into it, apart from the positive discrimination schemes which usually only appear when a role is currently horrendously white, heterosexual and male, is when you are weighing up people who are appointable ...
mph1977 said:
the only time minority status comes into it, apart from the positive discrimination schemes which usually only appear when a role is currently horrendously white, heterosexual and male, is when you are weighing up people who are appointable ...
surely the one with the best skills and not the blackest or brownest ?supersingle said:
mph1977 said:
... horrendously white, heterosexual and male...
You seriously worry me with that language and attitude. Hopefully you are a sociology undergraduate or some-such. I really hope you don't actually wield any power.
... and a profession where there are still managers who view heterosexual males with suspicion and promote all sorts of myths about the involvement of males in the profession and some of these managers think that ethnics are only fit for an inferior form of recognition ....
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