Red Cross being a bit over-protective?

Red Cross being a bit over-protective?

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Bill

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52,788 posts

255 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I realise Glasgow can feel a bit like a warzone but can a panto break the Geneva Convention?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west...

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Next target toy shops then?


or maybe they should just start with sainsburys

Quick call the cops



http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/toys_and_game...

Streps

2,448 posts

166 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Sounds like someone had a power trip

dmitsi

3,583 posts

220 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I just read this story. What a ridiculous reaction.
Lost a bit of respect for an organisation who do so much good. Why did this even become an issue.

Probably down to one over zealous jobsworth.

paulmurr

4,203 posts

212 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I donate to the red cross, I am rethinking that now. My money being wasted on something so utterly pointless is actually rather depressing.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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if you do stop supporting them it may be helpful to let them know why.

Tsippy

15,077 posts

169 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Pesty said:
if you do stop supporting them it may be helpful to let them know why.
Agreed, I stopped donating to WWF based on their actions and so let them know why. If you don't tell them, they won't change.

Bill

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52,788 posts

255 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Guam said:
I honestly though this was a Gag I was under the impression that clause was put in to prevent combatants pretending to be Red Cross workers for various covert reasons!!
You'd think so wouldn't you?

According to Wiki:

The Geneva Conventions comprise rules that apply in times of armed conflict and seek to protect people who are not or are no longer taking part in hostilities, for example:

  • wounded or sick fighters
  • prisoners of war
  • civilians
  • medical and religious personnel

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Absolute joke. Hope someone loses their scalp for all that huffing and puffing - what good did they possibly think would come of it? Not like they're a sensitive brand requiring careful protection. Utter tosspieces.

Tsippy

15,077 posts

169 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Pesty said:
Next target toy shops then?


or maybe they should just start with sainsburys

Quick call the cops



http://www.sainsburys.co.uk/sol/shop/toys_and_game...
And the adult sex shops....


Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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yes that is definitely against the convention and she should take it off streight away.

MX7

7,902 posts

174 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Bill said:
I realise Glasgow can feel a bit like a warzone but can a panto break the Geneva Convention?
Oh no it can't.

Hard to believe it's real.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

164 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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MX7 said:
Bill said:
I realise Glasgow can feel a bit like a warzone but can a panto break the Geneva Convention?
Oh no it can't.
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OH YES IT CAN !!!!biggrin

Tsippy

15,077 posts

169 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Post another pic then, we need to make it clear that nurse uniforms are evil biggrin

ninja-lewis

4,242 posts

190 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Bill said:
Guam said:
I honestly though this was a Gag I was under the impression that clause was put in to prevent combatants pretending to be Red Cross workers for various covert reasons!!
You'd think so wouldn't you?

According to Wiki:

The Geneva Conventions comprise rules that apply in times of armed conflict and seek to protect people who are not or are no longer taking part in hostilities, for example:

  • wounded or sick fighters
  • prisoners of war
  • civilians
  • medical and religious personnel
Remember that the Red Cross don't just work in warzones, they also operate in peacetime in countries otherwise hostile to foreign organisations (Burma and parts of Africa for example).

I can see why they crack down on any unauthorised use because if they turn a blind eye in one case, it becomes harder to prosecute more serious breaches. Furthermore, the BRC need to be seen as setting an example. It's like our international obligations to clear land mines: we are supposed to clear land mines in the Falklands but as they're not hurting anyone, we'd much rather put our resources into clearing land mines that do pose a danger in Africa etc and thus sought dispensation in the past to put off clearing the Falklands. Meanwhile other signatories of the treaty (particularly the ones we want to see clearing land mines in their own countries) point to our failure to fulfil our responsibilities and ask why should they? Hence we've now started clearing land mines in the Falklands to stop undermining the whole treaty.

Incidentally the Red Cross sign belongs to the Armed Forces' medical services, with the British Red Cross being the only civilian organisation in the UK permitted to use the symbol by the MOD - you don't see the NHS using it for example. By the sound of it, the BRC got wind of the use of the red cross and simply sent out the standard letter asking people to use some other logo with leaflet explaining why. Had they (or rather the Government) actually prosecuted the theatre over the misuse that would've been a bit harsh but right now it seems a bit of a non-story.

Bill

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52,788 posts

255 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Unauthorised use? Behave, it's a panto.

shakotan

10,704 posts

196 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I've just e-mailed the Chairman and the Chief Exec, and cc'd the Press Office, telling them what an arrogant and over-protective bunch of arses they've been.

My family have been pro-RC and donated heavily for years. Not anymore.

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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ninja-lewis said:
[I can see why they crack down on any unauthorised use because if they turn a blind eye in one case, it becomes harder to prosecute more serious breaches.


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because its sill and they have been turning a blind eye since I was a boy why start now.

If I put a red cross on a van and drove to palestine I could see them getting a bit miffed but a panto?

Would anybody make teh conection with teh red cross if they saw an actor wearing one or would they just think oh look they are supposed to be a nurse.

BliarOut

72,857 posts

239 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Tsippy said:
Pesty said:
if you do stop supporting them it may be helpful to let them know why.
Agreed, I stopped donating to WWF based on their actions and so let them know why. If you don't tell them, they won't change.
I vowed never to give to the NSPCC again due to their Full Stop campaign.

dandarez

13,288 posts

283 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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BliarOut said:
Tsippy said:
Pesty said:
if you do stop supporting them it may be helpful to let them know why.
Agreed, I stopped donating to WWF based on their actions and so let them know why. If you don't tell them, they won't change.
I vowed never to give to the NSPCC again due to their Full Stop campaign.
Charity begins at home.

Perhaps now even the British RC has become PC!

Nothing to do with Geneva Convention, all to do with control and of course, money, money, money.

Much changes because of £££s (to be made or taken or to promote a cause - ie climate change).

Take Barnardo's, never ceases to amaze me the amount of people who still think they are giving to children's homes.
Barnardo's hasn't had a children's home in over 20 years.