Red Cross being a bit over-protective?

Red Cross being a bit over-protective?

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xyyman

1,075 posts

225 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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To be safe might be best to remove the St. George's Cross from the British flag.

shakotan

10,704 posts

196 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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This is the e-mail reply I found in my Inbox this morning...

Red Cross said:
Dear Mr ******

My sincere apologies for the lateness in replying to your e-mail, which I believe was sent for the attention of our Chief Executive. I do appreciate your comments and know that there is probably very little I can say to diffuse the sentiments that you have expressed.

However, I would like to assure you that our International Humanitarian Law department do not scour the country looking for examples of where the emblem has been misused. However when it is brought to their attention, they are likely to follow up with a phone call, or send a standard letter.

This letter will typically include a pamphlet that explains the special protective meaning and legal restrictions applying to the red cross emblem which many people incorrectly believe is a general sign of the medical profession, when it is in fact a symbol of neutrality, recognised by all sides during armed conflicts and offering protection to those who wear or display it, including aid workers.

It is part of our role to ensure that the effectiveness of the red cross emblem is not diluted in any way, which is why we will on occasion have cause to send a letter, but we would not pursue legal action in such cases of misuse, as this would be a matter for the government authorities to decide, since the red cross emblem is owned by the Ministry of Defence (in this country), as the following link will further explain: www.redcross.org.uk/emblem

Most people we write to respectfully oblige once the significance of the red cross is explained, as we believe was the case with the Pavillion theatre. I am therefore very sorry that the publicity that followed has prompted you to write and advise us of your decision to withdraw your support and I do hope that you will at some time reconsider.

With best wishes

Jo Georgiou
Head of Supporter Services

Jasandjules

69,913 posts

229 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Tsippy said:
Pesty said:
if you do stop supporting them it may be helpful to let them know why.
Agreed, I stopped donating to WWF based on their actions and so let them know why. If you don't tell them, they won't change.
Yep, we did the same.


madala

5,063 posts

198 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Streps said:
Sounds like someone had a power trip
...sounds more like someone is a total brainless pratt....and I will think twice before I donate to them again.

Edited by madala on Thursday 13th January 17:39

Derek Smith

45,667 posts

248 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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shakotan said:
This is the e-mail reply I found in my Inbox this morning...

Red Cross said:
Dear Mr ******

My sincere apologies for the lateness in replying to your e-mail, which I believe was sent for the attention of our Chief Executive. I do appreciate your comments and know that there is probably very little I can say to diffuse the sentiments that you have expressed.

However, I would like to assure you that our International Humanitarian Law department do not scour the country looking for examples of where the emblem has been misused. However when it is brought to their attention, they are likely to follow up with a phone call, or send a standard letter.

This letter will typically include a pamphlet that explains the special protective meaning and legal restrictions applying to the red cross emblem which many people incorrectly believe is a general sign of the medical profession, when it is in fact a symbol of neutrality, recognised by all sides during armed conflicts and offering protection to those who wear or display it, including aid workers.

It is part of our role to ensure that the effectiveness of the red cross emblem is not diluted in any way, which is why we will on occasion have cause to send a letter, but we would not pursue legal action in such cases of misuse, as this would be a matter for the government authorities to decide, since the red cross emblem is owned by the Ministry of Defence (in this country), as the following link will further explain: www.redcross.org.uk/emblem

Most people we write to respectfully oblige once the significance of the red cross is explained, as we believe was the case with the Pavillion theatre. I am therefore very sorry that the publicity that followed has prompted you to write and advise us of your decision to withdraw your support and I do hope that you will at some time reconsider.

With best wishes

Jo Georgiou
Head of Supporter Services
Seems a reasonable point of view to me. They pointed something out and it was acted upon. There was no threat of action.

I too give to the RC on a monthly DD. I will continue to do so. I also give to the Salvation Army, this despite disagreeing with a lot of the rubbish they spout. I have no religious beliefs or affiliations. However, I know of no other organisation that does so much for those whom no others seem to bother with.

No organisatin is going to do everything your way. You have to work out if, on balance, it is worth it for you.

Can I put in a plug for the Sally Ann? I worked as a police officer in central London for 10 years. I am in awe of those who give up their spare time to work with the down-and-outs who otherwise would depend on the state to support them. Most (of the d-a-o) are across the border into nuttiness and therefore are, to say the least, difficult.

I nicked a prisoner outside Kings Cross station one freezing early morn and was waiting for a car to pick us up. An SA van was nearby and was distributing tea and food to the prostitutes. One SA came up to me and my (handcuffed) prisoner and asked us if we would like a cup of tea if only to hold. I said to the chap that I didn't realise that they serviced prostitutes (I'm a bundle of laughs, even just after midnight). He said they didn't judge. The women were needy. The more I think of that as a belief the more I have to say it's pretty good.

Plantation House went up in the City of London one night and we had over 100 FB appliances attend. There was smoke, injuries and stuff. The FB refreshment van turned up but was soon denuded. The SA van came past and stopped. Their food was better than the FB's. There was no demand for payment. We too were in need.

The religious side makes me laugh. But on balanace the world would be a much worse place without the SA and RC.

topjay

775 posts

218 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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Did no one point out to them the emblem has bee seen elswhere!!


Globs

13,841 posts

231 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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topjay said:
Did no one point out to them the emblem has bee seen elswhere!!

Take that down immediately!

Mojooo

12,734 posts

180 months

Thursday 13th January 2011
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As has been said, it was probably little more thn a letter, get a grip you saddos

And I didnt know it what the sign meant until just now, I did always think it was a medical sign