Another American shooting incident.

[Muntu]

968 said:

Muntu said:

Evidently the word "appears" in my first post was clearly far too complex for you to comprehend

Not at all. Just the usual necessity to post your own political theories into an unfolding story which no one knows the details of, and as I alluded to above, this is the very least issue of concern given what has happened.

My response was to the previous post implying that he was a right wing nutter. I think you will find that what I posted has a closer relationship to the truth of the matter.

Are you still labouring under the misapprehension that I have to run my posts past you before posting them, just in case you disagree?

ps. Your "alluded to above" bit appears to have been a bit of a late entrant to the party in the form of a recent edit to an earlier post

[968]

Muntu said:

968 said:

Muntu said:

Evidently the word "appears" in my first post was clearly far too complex for you to comprehend

Not at all. Just the usual necessity to post your own political theories into an unfolding story which no one knows the details of, and as I alluded to above, this is the very least issue of concern given what has happened.

My response was to the previous post implying that he was a right wing nutter. I think you will find that what I posted has a closer relationship to the truth of the matter.

Are you still labouring under the misapprehension that I have to run my posts past you before posting them, just in case you disagree?

ps. Your "alluded to above" bit appears to have been a bit of a late entrant to the party in the form of a recent edit to an earlier post

The person above you did not specify him as a right wing nutter, rather (unwisely) that the American right are too close to a fanatical element. What you posted is the same level of conjecture to the previous one, and probably just as accurate, given the available facts.

I don't care what you post, but I asked you a question expecting some evidence to support your statement. None was provided. The edit to my post was posted 2 minutes after the original post. Sorry if it appeared late with you constantly pressing the refresh button.

[Wadeski]

to be fair, it appears other Arizona democrats have had their offices shot up, get left fake mailbombs....either there are plenty of crazies, or there are some people who are getting the message its OK to attack politicians.

[Muntu]

968 said:

I don't care what you post,

That is a relief, you almost appear to have an unhealthy obsession with my posts and opinions

968 said:

but I asked you a question expecting some evidence to support your statement. None was provided.

You have vision problems? How sad.

968 said:

The edit to my post was posted 2 minutes after the original post. Sorry if it appeared late with you constantly pressing the refresh button.

The edit to your post conveniently gave you the opportunity to rubbish my contributions as irrelevant to the wider picture. Thank you for providing the Quality Control on this thread, I am sure you will be first in line when a Mod vacancy arises

Actually, maybe not...

[968]

Muntu said:

968 said:

I don't care what you post,

That is a relief, you almost appear to have an unhealthy obsession with my posts and opinions

968 said:

but I asked you a question expecting some evidence to support your statement. None was provided.

You have vision problems? How sad.

968 said:

The edit to my post was posted 2 minutes after the original post. Sorry if it appeared late with you constantly pressing the refresh button.

The edit to your post conveniently gave you the opportunity to rubbish my contributions as irrelevant to the wider picture. Thank you for providing the Quality Control on this thread, I am sure you will be first in line when a Mod vacancy arises

Actually, maybe not...

I think you might be paranoid. I asked a question. You provided a link which provides no credible evidence, just a twitter feed. My edit, as you can see from the timings was made within a minute as it followed my train of thought about this tragic story. Its not always about you, or given your paranoia, perhaps it is, in your mind.

[Muntu]

968 said:

Muntu said:

968 said:

I don't care what you post,

That is a relief, you almost appear to have an unhealthy obsession with my posts and opinions

968 said:

but I asked you a question expecting some evidence to support your statement. None was provided.

You have vision problems? How sad.

968 said:

The edit to my post was posted 2 minutes after the original post. Sorry if it appeared late with you constantly pressing the refresh button.

The edit to your post conveniently gave you the opportunity to rubbish my contributions as irrelevant to the wider picture. Thank you for providing the Quality Control on this thread, I am sure you will be first in line when a Mod vacancy arises

Actually, maybe not...

I think you might be paranoid. I asked a question. You provided a link which provides no credible evidence, just a twitter feed. My edit, as you can see from the timings was made within a minute as it followed my train of thought about this tragic story. Its not always about you, or given your paranoia, perhaps it is, in your mind.

Thank you for your latest session of internet psychiatry remote diagnosis. I can assure you that I am not paranoid. Hopefully your face to face diagnoses are more accurate.

Clearly you are unable to take what was a tongue in cheek jibe with good humour. Bless.

[eharding]

If Muntu and 968 could sort it out with a rapier duel at dawn, that would be lovely....not particularly bothered who wins.

Just watched Obama's press conference performance on the BBC about the shooting - he really is a cold fish, isn't he?

[968]

Muntu said:

968 said:

Muntu said:

968 said:

I don't care what you post,

That is a relief, you almost appear to have an unhealthy obsession with my posts and opinions

968 said:

but I asked you a question expecting some evidence to support your statement. None was provided.

You have vision problems? How sad.

968 said:

The edit to my post was posted 2 minutes after the original post. Sorry if it appeared late with you constantly pressing the refresh button.

The edit to your post conveniently gave you the opportunity to rubbish my contributions as irrelevant to the wider picture. Thank you for providing the Quality Control on this thread, I am sure you will be first in line when a Mod vacancy arises

Actually, maybe not...

I think you might be paranoid. I asked a question. You provided a link which provides no credible evidence, just a twitter feed. My edit, as you can see from the timings was made within a minute as it followed my train of thought about this tragic story. Its not always about you, or given your paranoia, perhaps it is, in your mind.

Thank you for your latest session of internet psychiatry remote diagnosis. I can assure you that I am not paranoid. Hopefully your face to face diagnoses are more accurate.

Clearly you are unable to take what was a tongue in cheek jibe with good humour. Bless.

Really? Tongue in cheek jibe? Accusation of being a stalker, questioning my professional credibility? You think that is good humour?

I simply asked you a question, which you failed to answer with a credible source.

[968]

eharding said:

If Muntu and 968 could sort it out with a rapier duel at dawn, that would be lovely....not particularly bothered who wins.

Just watched Obama's press conference performance on the BBC about the shooting - he really is a cold fish, isn't he?

Haven't seen it yet, what was the connection of the little girl killed? Was she family or innocent bystander?

[Muntu]

968 said:

Muntu said:

968 said:

Muntu said:

968 said:

I don't care what you post,

That is a relief, you almost appear to have an unhealthy obsession with my posts and opinions

968 said:

but I asked you a question expecting some evidence to support your statement. None was provided.

You have vision problems? How sad.

968 said:

The edit to my post was posted 2 minutes after the original post. Sorry if it appeared late with you constantly pressing the refresh button.

The edit to your post conveniently gave you the opportunity to rubbish my contributions as irrelevant to the wider picture. Thank you for providing the Quality Control on this thread, I am sure you will be first in line when a Mod vacancy arises

Actually, maybe not...

I think you might be paranoid. I asked a question. You provided a link which provides no credible evidence, just a twitter feed. My edit, as you can see from the timings was made within a minute as it followed my train of thought about this tragic story. Its not always about you, or given your paranoia, perhaps it is, in your mind.

Thank you for your latest session of internet psychiatry remote diagnosis. I can assure you that I am not paranoid. Hopefully your face to face diagnoses are more accurate.

Clearly you are unable to take what was a tongue in cheek jibe with good humour. Bless.

Really? Tongue in cheek jibe? Accusation of being a stalker, questioning my professional credibility? You think that is good humour?

I simply asked you a question, which you failed to answer with a credible source.

Bloody hell, are you sitting on the Japanese flag tonight or something?

If my replies to your questions don't meet your quality standards, that is more of a shame for you rather than me. It doesn't take too much effort to find a list of the shooter's favourite books, and other info that will back up my answer.

Good night

[Mojocvh]

eharding said:

If Muntu and 968 could sort it out with a rapier duel at dawn, that would be lovely....not particularly bothered who wins.

Just watched Obama's press conference performance on the BBC about the shooting - he really is a cold fish, isn't he?

OH yes, if it weren't for the teleprompter screen you would be able to see the cogs turning.............

[eharding]

968 said:

eharding said:

If Muntu and 968 could sort it out with a rapier duel at dawn, that would be lovely....not particularly bothered who wins.

Just watched Obama's press conference performance on the BBC about the shooting - he really is a cold fish, isn't he?

Haven't seen it yet, what was the connection of the little girl killed? Was she family or innocent bystander?

It was just his style and delivery that struck me as very odd - he could have been discussing a minor budget proposal rather than the attempted murder of a public figure and the murder of several others.

His opening comment referring to the congresswoman in the past tense was strange as well - although his pause afterwards did seem to indicate he realised the error.

[Pesty]

he may have had an acomplice.

been in trouble before sounds like a complete fruitcake.

[Mojocvh]

eharding said:

968 said:

eharding said:

If Muntu and 968 could sort it out with a rapier duel at dawn, that would be lovely....not particularly bothered who wins.

Just watched Obama's press conference performance on the BBC about the shooting - he really is a cold fish, isn't he?

Haven't seen it yet, what was the connection of the little girl killed? Was she family or innocent bystander?

It was just his style and delivery that struck me as very odd - he could have been discussing a minor budget proposal rather than the attempted murder of a public figure and the murder of several others.

His opening comment referring to the congresswoman in the past tense was strange as well - although his pause afterwards did seem to indicate he realised the error.

Or perhaps realising that next time it could be HIM.

[Pesty]

968 said:

Haven't seen it yet, what was the connection of the little girl killed? Was she family or innocent bystander?

just watching the news conference. Not said yet but they have said he used an semi automatc pistol.

6 killed and 18 wounded. Sounds like he was just shooting at anybody but they are not saying much.


suspicious packages being inspected he has a criminal record. guy speaking suggesting that he had mental health issues.

now saying he had made threats to kill in the past and been contacted by the polce over it. He definitely was not alone

Edited by Pesty on Sunday 9th January 01:23

[deeps]

eharding said:

It was just his style and delivery that struck me as very odd - he could have been discussing a minor budget proposal rather than the attempted murder of a public figure and the murder of several others.

There's no room for emotion when a level head is required, IMO. A strong emotionless speech is what I would want to see personally.

eharding said:

His opening comment referring to the congresswoman in the past tense was strange as well - although his pause afterwards did seem to indicate he realised the error.

Yes that was strange, but I suppose they may have been friends years ago, but were no longer friends? More likely just an error in the script though.

Edit to fk about with brackets

Edited by deeps on Sunday 9th January 01:32

[Pesty]

http://www.businessinsider.com/woman-who-says-she-...


A woman named Caitie Parker has been tweeting that she went to school with Rep. Gabrielle Giffords' alleged shooter Jared Loughner and that he had met Giffords previously.

Also," he was a pot head & into rock like Hendrix,The Doors, Anti-Flag. I haven't seen him in person since '07 in a sign language class" and "As I knew him he was left wing, quite liberal. & oddly obsessed with the 2012 prophecy."

mention of the 2012 prophecy is interesting

[Strawman]

Muntu said:

He appears to be a Leftie. Favourite video is the burning of a US flag on his youtube account.

An astonishing view, the world's media have him down as a right wing crackpot and are blaming the rhetoric Palin has been spouting as a trigger point for the attack.

[Eric Mc]

There is a big danger in the current rush to demonise politicians. Over the past few years, the media has essentially decided that politicians are liars, cheats, untrustworthy and no good. We all know that some politicians have been their own worst enemies and that some of them do fit into the sterotyped description.

But by holding them all up to be worthless parasites, we are actually giving a green light for headcases and weirdoes to rationalise attacks like this. It's not unique to the USA either. We had an MP here injured in a sword attack.

Dangerous times.

[thinfourth2]

Eric Mc said:

There is a big danger in the current rush to demonise politicians. Over the past few years, the media has essentially decided that politicians are liars, cheats, untrustworthy and no good. We all know that some politicians have been their own worst enemies and that some of them do fit into the sterotyped description.

But by holding them all up to be worthless parasites, we are actually giving a green light for headcases and weirdoes to rationalise attacks like this. It's not unique to the USA either. We had an MP here injured in a sword attack.

Dangerous times.

Yeah but voting results in a change of tie colour and fk all else. So maybe shooting them might work